Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-ibatis-user-java-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 6465 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2006 13:44:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 2006 13:44:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 60672 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jul 2006 13:44:37 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ibatis-user-java-archive@ibatis.apache.org Received: (qmail 60599 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jul 2006 13:44:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-java-help@ibatis.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user-java@ibatis.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user-java@ibatis.apache.org Received: (qmail 60588 invoked by uid 99); 17 Jul 2006 13:44:36 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 06:44:36 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [206.113.192.17] (HELO yorktown.nielsenmedia.com) (206.113.192.17) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 06:44:36 -0700 Received: from NMRFLIMG1.nmrlan.net (nmrflimg1.nmrlan.net [10.38.67.53]) by yorktown.nielsenmedia.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6HDVPAY011202 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nmr001oldOWA01.enterprisenet.org (unverified) by NMRFLIMG1.nmrlan.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.14) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:44:05 -0400 Received: from nmr001oldmsx04.enterprisenet.org ([10.38.67.63]) by nmr001oldOWA01.enterprisenet.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:44:06 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Selling iBatis to the skeptics Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:44:00 -0400 Message-ID: <093D7E25FD9C2441A13103EFB8CBED3A0B6CB76E@nmr001oldmsx04.enterprisenet.org> In-Reply-To: <5334876.post@talk.nabble.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Selling iBatis to the skeptics thread-index: AcankagrksWQvrfCRJqQ59dPbhFnUQCFQ3jQ From: "Chen, Tim" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2006 13:44:06.0511 (UTC) FILETIME=[12B4CFF0:01C6A9A7] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Start the meeting with a presentation on EJB3 ...ummm... I mean Hibernate. In the end if they don't get it they don't get it. Tough cookies. You know people are still using scriplets on jsp pages?=20 -----Original Message----- From: jaybytez [mailto:jaybytez@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:05 PM To: user-java@ibatis.apache.org Subject: Selling iBatis to the skeptics I am setting up a brown bag session on Tuesday with two of the successful apps that I have built with iBatis. I am trying to find good resources to help me convince others in our group of the benefits of iBatis. The developers I have to be concerned with are primarily J2EE only developers who like Entity Beans and don't understand the need for this iBatis thing and its XML. I on the other hand, have found the benefits of abstraction, reduction in boilerplate code, and simplified testing. Any other items or specific subjects I should discuss in selling iBatis to J2EE developers? Thanks! jay blanton -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Selling-iBatis-to-the-skeptics-tf1945597.html#a533 4876 Sent from the iBATIS - User - Java forum at Nabble.com.