Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-ibatis-user-java-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 18602 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2005 21:52:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Nov 2005 21:52:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 87537 invoked by uid 500); 4 Nov 2005 21:52:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-ibatis-user-java-archive@ibatis.apache.org Received: (qmail 87521 invoked by uid 500); 4 Nov 2005 21:52:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-java-help@ibatis.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user-java@ibatis.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user-java@ibatis.apache.org Received: (qmail 87510 invoked by uid 99); 4 Nov 2005 21:52:02 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 13:52:02 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [196.25.240.86] (HELO ctb-mesg6.saix.net) (196.25.240.86) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 13:51:56 -0800 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (rndf-146-38-15.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.38.15]) by ctb-mesg6.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D12318290 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:51:38 +0200 (SAST) Message-ID: <436BD7F2.9050307@isanusi.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:51:46 +0200 From: Abdullah Kauchali User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: user-java@ibatis.apache.org Subject: Re: iBatis and ORM's References: <436B19E1.9030006@isanusi.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Larry Meadors wrote: >Man, this is a big one, and i am late already..i'll get it started. > > Sorry. :) I know Friday's almost over, but I need some ammo for something I am preparing for next week. >The question is not DAO vs ORM, it is ORM vs Data Mapping. > > Got it! >ORM = mapping database objects to java objects (or c#, whatever). > > Yeah, tables to java objects. Cool. >Data mapping = mapping sql *statements* to java objects (c#, blah, whatever). > > This is what I am trying to understand. How's this any different from what Hibernate does? >DAO can be used with either ORM or Data Mapping. > > Yup. Much like what Spring does by allowing either iBatis or Hibernate to operate as the "data layer"? >More later... > > Much appreciated! Believe me! I love you guys! :-D