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From Abdullah Kauchali <abdullah.kauch...@isanusi.com>
Subject Re: iBatis and ORM's
Date Mon, 07 Nov 2005 06:31:36 GMT
Alan Chandler wrote:

>>Hang on a sec here, don't we also map Java Classes to database tables
>>with iBatis?  A User class
>>in my design maps to a User table in the database.   Isn't this exactly
>>how the iBatis docs tell us
>>we should map our result beans?
>a) I was simplifying, but yes we map to beans not objects - but I have a 
>message that I want to get across

Hi Alan,

Instantiated beans are objects too, no?  :)   The point is that /once/ 
we start creating classes like these:

public class Student{
   private Classroom classroom;  <-  another class


public class Classroom{

   private List students;  <- collection of students

... we get snookered into the ORM corner.

>b) We do NOT map directly to tables, only to the results of a SQL statement 
>(which - as you say - might be a table).  But the crux of my arguement is 
>that although for simple CRUD you might have that simple mapping, any real 
>application is more complex than that.

We have a 90 table data model where we began to model the bean 
structures exactly as suggested by iBatis

We then removed all such structures (refer above to the class examples) 
and are now using the "dataset"
approach (with foreign-key links) - but this is very clumsy with 
instances of beans in lists instead of dealing with
true-blue disconnected datasets.  :-)

>I disagree if you design your database with proper normalisation.  In my 
>recent family tree application of the 12 SELECT statements only 2 mapped 
>directly to the table and 2 others half did (I added a dynamic where clause 
>to limit the search via a filter).

How many iBatis users design their beans like the example above? 

Kind regards,


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