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From "Clinton Begin" <clinton.be...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
Date Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:14:17 GMT
Agreed.  And actually, I hope someday Mono takes over the world.  ;-)

I had the opportunity to work with Microsoft for over a year.  Part of
that time was spent in SDRs for C# 3.0 and LINQ (to SQL and Entities).

C# 3.0 is probably the best language that will have ever crossed my
desktop.  I'm a full time Ruby dev at the moment, and I can still say
that all things considered, I'd take C# 3.0 by choice (with a few
minor tweaks to their libraries -- but with C# mixins/extension
methods, that's not a problem! -- oh please someone help Java).  ;-)

Like I said though, the mere existence of these won't help us.   A
survey that reports 99% in favour of a technology doesn't offer us any
new and compelling information.


On 7/10/07, Clough, Samuel (USPC.PRG.Atlanta)
<Samuel_Clough@princetonrg.com> wrote:
> Actually, there are some other web frameworks out there for .NET, some
> of which have a strong following in certain groups such as Castle's
> monorail.  Admittedly, most .NET developers just drink the MS koolaid,
> so webforms is by far the most popular.
> I thought Spring.NET had a DAO framework, but I can't remember at the
> moment.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clinton Begin [mailto:clinton.begin@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 4:18 PM
> To: user-cs@ibatis.apache.org
> Subject: Re: iBATIS Survey (10 Minutes)
> Another common question:  Why are the last few questions so Java
> centric?
> Well....for web frameworks...you're looking at ASP.NET.  Having been a
> .NET dev for about 2 years, I can't even name another one.  I should
> have added WinForms though, because a lot of people are using web
> services fronted by rich clients.  My apologies.  However, the
> persistence architecture likely wouldn't change much whether it was
> web services fronted by WinForms or ASP.NET.  Comments welcome.
> For persistence frameworks I should have added LINQ to SQL, LINQ to
> Entities and plain old ADO.NET.  My apologies.  We'll do a quick
> followup survey for that.  However Hibernate is available for .NET, so
> if that is your primary alternative, please choose that one.
> For IDEs...well, let's be honest.  The survey would come out about 99%
> in favor of VS.NET.   ;-)
> For DAO...I can't name another abstraction layer for .NET...comments
> welcome.
> Sorry for the confusion and Java centric questions.  Like I say, any
> ambiguous answers will be followed up by another survey (probably just
> a few questions in these specific areas).
> Best regards,
> Clinton
> On 7/9/07, Clinton Begin <clinton.begin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > For everyone looking for multiple checkboxes, even though the survey
> > software supports it, it will be hard for us to draw conclusions if
> > everyone selects everything.  :-)
> >
> > So when answering tough questions where you would normally want to
> > pick multiple choices, it's important that you pick the "primary" or
> > "most important" one....
> >
> > Even though multiple choices apply, one always stands out.  If it
> > doesn't, then you basically cancel out the survey option and you might
> > as well randomly choose one (because it would still have more meaning
> > than choosing multiples).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Clinton
> >
> >
> > On 7/7/07, Clinton Begin <clinton.begin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I've put together a simple survey to help us set the direction for
> > > future versions of iBATIS.
> > >
> > > Please fill it out to ensure that iBATIS remains or becomes the
> > > product you want.
> > >
> > > It should only take 10 minutes to fill out.  The results are not
> > > displayed, but I will publish a summary of them when I feel enough
> > > results have been submitted.  So the faster you complete the survey,
> > > the faster you'll get to see the results.
> > >
> > > http://codehammer.org:81/survey/show/ibatis
> > >
> > > Don't be shy about the email address requirement.  It is simply to
> > > avoid spam, trolling etc.  This is not a 3rd party company running
> the
> > > survey, "Codehammer" is me just me, so worry not.  We'll only use it
> > > to validate against the list etc.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Clinton
> > >
> >
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