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From "Arthur E. Johnston" <>
Subject Re: [users@httpd] Unstable PHP under Apache
Date Mon, 01 May 2017 19:08:17 GMT

I am not near my computer right now.

There is a setting in PHP.ini to extend the time for each process. 

Arthur Johnston

Sent from my iPhone.  Please excuse
The typos.

> On May 1, 2017, at 8:24 AM, John Iliffe <> wrote:
> Thanks for the response Nick.
> I originally suspected PHP too but using mod_php most of this works.  (It 
> all does on the old server on Apache-2.4.10 using mod_php)  I'm using 
> mod_fcgid on Apache so that is why I posted here.  I already tried the 
> Apache download of PHP-FPM about a month back with mostly similar errors, 
> even with a considerable amount of help by Daniel; so I gave up and went to 
> what looked like it should be the easier path (mod_fcgid).  As it turned 
> out, it wasn't.
> The odd install locations are because I don't want to use the Fedora 
> repositories to get the Apache and PHP and other software.  I've been hit 
> before by a non-trivial change when the software gets updated and something 
> breaks.  So now I maintain my own and I always have a back-out position.  
> The locations for the PHP scripts are because there are several named 
> virtual hosts on Apache and each one has its own subdirectory under /httpd.  
> For example, the test server, and the hacker trap on the first named host is 
> with /httpd/iliffe  as the document root.  Both scripts and static 
> pages related to the virtual server are stored in the same place.
> The really odd thing is that if the PHP ini file is incorrect (syntax error 
> in one line) then everything works as it should.  The problem that arises 
> is that every page served has a line right in the middle of the page that 
> says something like "syntax error in ini file on line #432"  or similar.  
> Certainly not acceptable for a production server!  Note that this occurs on 
> EVERY page served, indicating that a new PHP child process must have been 
> started on every script which is not what I would expect from the docs on 
> mod_fcgid.  (which should have started a pool I would have thought).
> So, yes, you are correct, I may be barking up the wrong tree.  The problem 
> is, I'm lost in the forest!
> Regards,
> John
> =========================================
>> On Monday 01 May 2017 01:54:26 Nick Kew wrote:
>> On Sun, 2017-04-30 at 14:56 -0400, John Iliffe wrote:
>> I find your post confusing, so I may be barking up the
>> wrong tree.  But I see:
>>> Now Apache has started php-cgi, the parent process is one of the
>>> workers The response to the browser is "No input file specified"
>>> There are no errors shown in the Apache error log, nor in the php.log,
>>> nor in the php-fpm.log.
>> It looks as if you're looking in the wrong place.
>> It's all working fine as far as Apache is concerned:
>> PHP has accepted a request and produced a response.
>> Your problem lies in something PHP is doing.
>> Questions to consider:
>> Why the idiosyncratic install locations of httpd and php
>> in your filesystem?
>> What's the HTTP response?
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