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From LVDave <>
Subject Re: [users@httpd] Apache2 does not properly start
Date Fri, 11 Dec 2015 19:22:21 GMT
Thanks for the reply..
Ubuntu 14.04 has partial systemd, but still uses upstart for kicking
off daemons.. I've heard that in 16.04 will be the first LTS with full
systemd.. It does appear that upstart is whats complaining about it
taking longer than 20 seconds to start apache, but after seeing that
warning, I see all of the necessary apache processes, and access to
the webserver seems to work fine, but then if I try to stop apache via
upstart it complains about other apache pids its not aware of and
refuses to stop apache.... Waiting on a reply on AskUbuntu about


On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Stormy <> wrote:
> At 09:23 AM 12/11/2015 -0600, Andy Wang wrote:
>> On 12/10/2015 08:21 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote:
>>> It's been too many years since I and others have looked at 2.4.7, if you
>>> can try this on a modern release of httpd and share those error logs, be
>>> glad to review.
>>> [snip] it looks like you're attempting to use the ubuntu packaged httpd
>>> and the ubuntu upstart(or are they using systemd now?) scripts.
>> You should probably ask on the ubuntu forums to see if people are familiar
>> with that.
> Ubuntu 14.04 tries to use upstart... 15.04 recognizes a "return" to systemd
> (see <>). In my experience
> many admins have tweaked their servers to their own preferences. Certainly
> with Ubuntu 14.04LTS it is trivial to have systemd work as expected.
> On the other hand, Ubuntu is not necessarily user friendly for less
> experienced admins to compile more recent versions than recommended
> "packages" -- I *think* 2.4.10 is the latest "stable" for 14.04LTS, but
> 2.4.17-3ubuntu1 (amd64, i386) is available, but may still be "somewhat beta"
> to backport (I do not follow dependencies.)
> Best -- Paul
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