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From Yehuda Katz <yeh...@ymkatz.net>
Subject Re: [users@httpd] Fwd: E tag numbers
Date Mon, 11 May 2015 18:04:34 GMT
There is no such thing as "directly with Apache!"

The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) provides a home for multiple
open-source projects, including the HTTPD server.
There is no one at ASF who can help you other than to direct you to the
project support webpage:
http://httpd.apache.org/support.html
That page lists all the available support options for HTTPD. You are
currently on option 2, "The Apache HTTP Server Users List".

Good luck with whatever other options you plan to pursue.

- Y


On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:48 PM, steve owen <stevio@talktalkbusiness.net>
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> Yehuda,
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> I do sincerely apologies for my lack of known protocol. I'm no computer
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> Many many thanks for your time.
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> On Mon May 11 17:26 , Yehuda Katz <yehuda@ymkatz.net> sent:
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> >1. It is considered rude to reply to an individual instead of to the
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> when you have follow-up questions. Many people on the HTTPD list -
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> >2. As I already said, the ETag header are generated by the server based
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> >ETags are NOT a thing to be allocated or purchased. ETag headers are
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> >ETag headers are a part of the HTTP specification and have no meaning
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> >- Y
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> >On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:02 PM, steve owen <stevio@talktalkbusiness.net>
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