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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:37:37 +0200
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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] phishing problem

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Hi,

Apache servers are not victims of phishing attacks.
Users are victims of phishing attacks.

As the OP is french, I'm continuing in french:

Comme je ne dis plus haut, tes serveurs ne peuvent pas =EAtre victimes =
d'une attaque de phishing. Un phishing c'est une attaque par abus de =
confiance (ou de b=EAtise), et =E7a se situe donc directement au niveau =
de l'utilisateur.
Le seul moyen de lutter contre le phishing c'est d'=E9duquer les =
utilisateurs. Tu peux toujours proposer des services en https, si les =
utilisateurs se moquent de la validit=E9 des certificats, c'est mort.

Tu ne donnes pas assez de d=E9tails pour qu'on puisse comprendre ce =
qu'il s'est pass=E9, donc impossible de te donner des pointeurs vers de =
la doc.=20
Quoi qu'il en soit, si les utilisateurs ont =E9t=E9 dirig=E9s =E0 leur =
insu vers un serveur "pirate", il n'existe aucune configuration d'apache =
qui peut les prot=E9ger, puisque par d=E9finition, les utilisateurs =
arrivent sur un serveur qui n'est pas le tien.

On 12 juil. 2011, at 10:20, Frank Bonnet wrote:

> Hello
>=20
> Few weeks ago we discovered that two of our apache servers
> has been victims of phishing attack.
>=20
> The first one is running squirrelmail webmail and the second one
> in running our extranet services for students and professors.
>=20
> Both of them are using https and require authentication.
>=20
> The two phising pages had the same look and feel than original servers
> of course !
>=20
> The "traps" has been used to grab users's login and passwords as =
usual.
>=20
> The attack has been performed by "real" hackers that have been paid
> by some students to hack passwords of "interresting" people.
> maybe some hacked DNS or Internet routers has been compromised/used ?
>=20
> I would be VERY interrested by ANY documentation about that kind
> of phising techniques and HOW to fight them ( if possible ) also
> I would be interrested by any apache gurus advices ...
> Would it be possible to configure something in apache to track down
> that kind of problem ? any log analyzer that could help ?
>=20
> Thank you very much

Patrick PRONIEWSKI
--=20
Administrateur Syst=E8me - DSI - Universit=E9 Lumi=E8re Lyon 2


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