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Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 07:31:55 -0700
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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Total newbie to Apache Web Server with start up
 issue

Your problem seems two fold. One your using windows XP Home edition as a
development platform, so you are already handicapped wrt tools and
logging and software that more robust Windows platforms have (I know I
said Windows and robust in the same sentence).

But, I have a Windows 7 Ultimate laptop with all kinds of MS VS tools
that I really don't use so I installed apache 2.2 binary and went about
configuring.. 

Chances are more than very high that you have something running on 80,
8080 and 443, otherwise Apache would have been bound to 80 already. I
know you said you tried netstat, but try it again like this:

$ netstat -ab | more  this will allow you to page through the output
since it is long and may run past you cmd buffer, just hit the space bar
to move through the output. When I did this I saw what had grabbed these
ports...

good luck,
Pat

On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 19:07 -0700, cipher crypted wrote:
> If I can't find the answer to my issues, I'll look up your suggestions
> one by one and study and hopefully find my answer(s). By the way, once
> I reach Service Settings, what are the external and internal ports?
> Needless to say, I'm not vastly literate in technology. I'm a web
> designer but haven't branched much elsewhere throughout my years as a
> coder. I'm at peace just coding. ;). I did input ports 80 on both
> fields, port 443 on both fields, and port 80 and 443 on each field,
> then reversed that, and the message was the same: port is already in
> use, enter unique port number. Also, if one of the two Apache.exe
> processes I see running on my system is http"d", should the "d" be
> reflected on either of these? Both just read Apache.exe. I'm trying to
> distinguish both of these but can't because they look alike.
> 
> 
> Mysqld.exe is running perfectly well, so I'm wondering if I should be
> seeing the "d" in either of the Apache.exe processes. Also, I have
> version 2.2 installed on my system according to Apache Service
> Manager, but it fails to start upon starting it manually. Could this
> be the other Apache.exe process and should I remove this version, or
> can I bind this version to port 80 or 443, which ever I need to code
> with PHP? Version 1.3.24 has green all over it and is running, but I
> can't reflect this in the XAMPP monitor console and according to them,
> this means that Apache is not running. 
> 
> 
> Thank you, all!
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 3/22/11, John Hudak <jjhudak@gmail.com> wrote:
>         
>         From: John Hudak <jjhudak@gmail.com>
>         Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Total newbie to Apache Web Server
>         with start up issue
>         To: users@httpd.apache.org
>         Cc: "cipher crypted" <xciphercryptedx@yahoo.com>
>         Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 3:09 PM
>         
>         With all due respect, but have you looked for any How-To's for
>         your specific OS?
>         I would also try searching for related concerns, such as
>         'Starting Apache under XAMPP' or 'Starting Apache' or
>         'Configuring Apache'....etc...you get the idea..
>         Thirdly, there is the Apache website and associated
>         documentation you could consult.
>         (I personally go there as a last resort because it often is
>         way too detailed or the docs are very focused on a particular
>         thing-however, if you find something you don't understand from
>         the first two searches, the Apache site is great for
>         explaining the specifics.
>         
>         Having said all that....I am not very familiar at all with
>         XAMPP.  It basically sits on top of Apache (and other apps)
>         providing a unified interface so to speak.  I'd look
>         specifically at topics about configuring and running Apache.
>         
>         WRT opening ports in XP, you can try the following:
>         1. Click on your start button -> My Network Places. On the
>         left you will see Network Tasks. Click on View Network
>         Connections.
>         
>         
>         2  Right click on the Local Area Connection, or right click on
>         1394 if you use a wireless connection. Select properties from
>         the drop-down menu. At the top of the Local Area Connection
>         properties box -> Advanced-> Settings button under Windows
>         Firewall. If your settings button is not available that means
>         that all the ports on your computer are automatically opened.
>         
>         
>         3. After you click the Settings button under Windows Firewall,
>         click the Advanced button -> Settings button to the right of
>         Local Area Connection (or to the right of 1394). Under the
>         Advanced Settings tab -> Add button at the bottom.
>         
>         
>         4. This will take you to the Service Settings box. In the
>         Description box, type a name, any name, preferably one that
>         coincides with the reason you want to open this port. For
>         example, PSP Port 1234. In the Name or IP address of the
>         computer hosting this service on your network box, type
>         127.0.0.1. In the External port and Internal port boxes, type
>         the port number. Click either TCP  and then click OK, and you
>         have now opened the port and are ready to go online.
>         
>         
>         Hope this helps.
>         -J
>         
>         
>         
>         On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:54 PM, cipher crypted
>         <xciphercryptedx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>                 Greetings,
>                 
>                 First, I apologize in advance to anyone and everyone
>                 involved that I will insult, confuse, agitate, etc, if
>                 my email is NOT up to the standards documented on your
>                 site. I've read briefly your guidelines for posting
>                 and for users obtaining information regarding their
>                 issues, questions, etc, and quite frankly, I would
>                 pass out trying to find answers and support to my
>                 question in the labyrinth that is your site, before I
>                 would actually find my answers. So, I'm praying this
>                 email will get the ball rolling for the support I
>                 need.
>                 
>                 Second, my issue. As the subject states, I am
>                 completely new to your web server project and recently
>                 downloaded your server as part of a software bundle
>                 named 'XAMPP'. I have posted my issue on their forums
>                 and I understand what I'm supposed to do, I just cant
>                 figure out how to do it on my system.
>                 
>                 Apache is NOT running on my system, according to the
>                 XAMPP control panel which would indicate if it was
>                 running by displaying the word 'running' with a
>                 green-colored background. MySql server is running
>                 perfectly and is displayed as such as I mentioned
>                 above.
>                 
>                 I have performed netstat commands on DOS and have
>                 located port 80 (I'm told should be used for Apache),
>                 and I've been told port 443 should also be used for
>                 Apache, but I have not been able to find this port on
>                 DOS (the closest port number I always see is 445).
>                 Every time I check processes running on my system on
>                 Task Manager, I find TWO Apache.exe processes running,
>                 but only ONE is reflected in netstat's results. I did
>                 mention this to XAMPP support and they told me one is
>                 or should be the daemon process. Is there a GUI in
>                 Windows for locating ports and assigning them? I found
>                 this running IIS, but disabled IIS to install XAMPP as
>                 my XP Home Edition OS does not include IISS, and I
>                 can't to save my life find a GUI in Windows to assign
>                 ports to other processes that may be blocking the
>                 port(s) I need to run Apache.
>                 
>                 The original and ONLY error message I'm basing my
>                 issue on is a 'The requested URL /helloWorld.php was
>                 not found on this server.' I'm sure many of you are
>                 familiar with the rest of this message which notes
>                 version 1.3.24 and port 80 in it.
>                 
>                 This is my only use for your server, coding in PHP for
>                 web design and web-based services. My apologies again,
>                 if I've now "hurt" anyone with this sentence.
>                 
>                 So, finally, my question, how can I get Apache started
>                 and keep it running on my system? As I mentioned in
>                 the beginning, I pray I've provided as much
>                 information as possible to be worthy of receiving
>                 support for my question/issue.
>                 
>                 Best regards.
>                 
>                 Thank you and God bless all!
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
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