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Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:54:21 -0600 (MDT)
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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] tomcat without apache in front

>
> Well, of course, directly to tomcat.  Every link in the chain makes the
> chain longer and heavier, but you generally cannot lock the gate with a
> one-link chain.  Apache and Tomcat will do some caching, so it may not
> matter.
>
> Is Tomcat and Apache on the same physical machine?
-- Yes

Are there other things using Apache -> AJP -> Tomcat, or is this the only
thing?

-- This is the only thing nothing else

What is the general traffic flow and security policy for your environment?

-- 2500 hits / minute - no security policy it is an internal app
>
> My response is not so much about performance as it is opening Tomcat's
> port directly to internet traffic.  Is it OK to the actors of this
> servlet to directly hit Tomcat's port... or will you have Tomcat listen
> on port 80/443 directly?

This is one thing i have heard from many what's the big deal in opening
port 80 of app servers? any pointers
> singh@allumezinfotech.com wrote:
>> Thanks for reply guys but i think i didnt put my question right ;( let
>> me
>> rephrase it :
>>
>> What is better in terms of response and resource utilisation when we
>> have
>> 2500 hits / min :
>>
>> 1. Directly on tomcat
>>
>> 2. Apache> AJP> tomcat
>>
>> Provided :
>> Not static content to be served.
>>
>>
>>
>>> You can make the request directly to Tomcat.  What port is Tomcat
>>> listening on?  Are you willing to open that port directly?  Think about
>>> who/what is accessing that servlet.  They will need to know that port.
>>> Is that OK?
>>>
>>> singh@allumezinfotech.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any Suggestions please?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We have a single servlet application very light weight.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is just like that servlet is called with some parameter and it
>>>>> returns
>>>>> some file from "n" number of files on local file system.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is an old application and some how it is having apache in front of
>>>>> tomcat.
>>>>>
>>>>> What i am thinking is what is more expensive :
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Request coming to worker MPM in apache> Request sent using AJP to
>>>>> tomcat>
>>>>> tomcat creates a new thread> serves back the request. ( if it is
>>>>> right
>>>>> )
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Request directly coming to tomcat> new thread spawned> request
>>>>> served.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please not there is NO static content to be served.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is apache prefork or work MPM better in worker mgmt then tomcat ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please suggest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Singh
>>>>>
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