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From Mohammed obaidan <blue4...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [users@httpd] Re: GUI for configuring Apache httpd by editing httpd.conf
Date Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:03:32 GMT
Hi,

I read a few about the modules and found out that they are some modules come
with Apache distribution here <http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/>.
Others are createds by different people here <http://modules.apache.org/>. I
think that the modules that comes with the distribution should be
implemented. I think that would be an important part of the tool.

You mentioned a few good points like it will help you in remembering
variables. It will also help you validate directives and their variables.

Regarding Apache admins, I think expert admins will not need this tool.
However most Apache admins are not that expert because Apache is used by web
developers also. Regarding the beginners  I think a simple wizard will help
them

In conclusion, I think the tool should handle all the directive and the
modules included with Apache distribution.

Regards

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Octavian R√Ęsnita <orasnita@gmail.com>
wrote:
> From: "Mohammed obaidan" <blue4603@gmail.com>
>>
>> I think when a Windows user want a simple web server
>> will go for IIS because it has a GUI. This will affect Apache usage
>> share, though not that much but at least will have an impact.
>
> I use Apache under Windows, because I create the programs under Windows
then
> I put them to run under Linux, and I want to use the same web server.
>
> A GUI for configuring Apache would be nice if it would let me to do
> absolutely everything I can do with a text editor.
> I would like such a tool for the cases when I forget the name of some
> variables or options in cases like those conditions that can be wrote in
> httpd.conf for preventing the access to a certain type of files, from a
> specific  IP address, when the HTTP headers contain or not contain a
certain
> text, and so on.
>
>> Regarding the GUI for the modules, I think that every module creator
>> can for example implement a simple plugin for my tool, as you said,
>> since it will needs lots of time and effort.
>
> I really doubt that they would do that.
> And if they won't do that, the users would see that your tool is not able
to
> understand some parts of the configuration file, so it can't help them.
>
>> Regarding installing a basic Apache on Windows, it is not an easy
>> task. It is easy iff you install it from a package like XAMPP.
>
> I have never installed Apache under Windows that way. I have always
> installed from the .msi installer and it always was very easy.
>
>> I think such a tool will contribute a lot to Apache since it will ease
>> it configuration. I know that most of you are thinking that this tool
>> for Windows users that are so lazy to do it by hand. However I think
>> it will help them and people who are switching to Linux like myself.
>
> I think that Apache administrators already know what they need to do in
> httpd.conf, and if they know, it is more simple for them to make the
> configuration in a text editor than using a GUI.
> They could find that GUI useful if it could help them remember the
advanced
> settings which they don't remember how to do with an editor.
> But if they can't do absolutely everything with that tool... it wouldn't
be
> very useful for them, and for beginners would be very bad because it could
> make them think that it is not possible to do what that tool can't do.
>
> Octavian
>
>
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