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From Mohammed obaidan <blue4...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [users@httpd] Re: GUI for configuring Apache httpd by editing httpd.conf
Date Sun, 15 Feb 2009 05:45:57 GMT
Hi,

OK there are a lot of questions to be answered.
Regrading the directives, do not worry about the GUI. The GUI problem
is easy to solve and they are many options to tackle this, for
example, using a table to show the directives and group similar
directives. That is a quick solution for it. since the aim is a
complete Apache GUI admin tool, all  the directive of Apache will be
present, available to the user and validated.

Regarding the modules, the modules are not part of the Apache server.
That also applies to the distributions and packages modules.

Regarding split config files, this can be solved by giving a user the
option to have a split config file or not.

Regarding automatic reloading and syntax checking, this is not the
time to discuss it. As I told you before the aim is a portable Apache
GUI admin tool the first step is the httpd.conf file.

> I'm sure this could all be solved, given the resources.
> I'm not so sure if these resources would be spent wisely, though.

Well my friend, we will see about that.

One final note and I want to reemphasize is that

The aim is a portable Apache GUI admin tool.
The first step is the httpd.conf file.
This tool is solely for Apache httpd server not for third party
modules or distribution or packages

Regards

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Peter Schober
<peter.schober@univie.ac.at> wrote:
> Just a few thoughts from the top of my head...
>
> * Mohammed obaidan <blue4603@gmail.com> [2009-02-14 14:53]:
>> What I really aiming at is complete portable administration tool for
>> Apache. I am heading for this goal step by step and the first step is
>> the GUI for configuring Apache.
>
> So you want to write a complete admin tool with a GUI, that means a
> GUI item for every single httpd directive (or it's possible values, if
> restricted)? Seems like an awful lot of knobs to turn?
> Also what does complete with regard to the supported modules and their
> respective config options mean? Is this tool complete, iff it has a
> knob for every directive that's available when doing `configure &&
> make && make`? How about distribution's and other packaged versions
> and their modules? Whom are you targetting? All of them?
>
> You said this would possibly run on MS-Windows and other OSes, so it
> will be standalone desktop application? And it's output/result of
> using that GUI would be what?  A single httpd.conf file? What if my
> OS/distribution uses split config files (or does not use those)?
> Does that mean I cannot use the file, produced by your GUI tool?
> Or will I have to ssh to $server and hack at this file with $EDITOR
> to make the neccessary changes?
>
> Or will it somehow interact with httpd? Push the config file on some
> server (preferrably via secure protocols) or check the config file
> into a VCS? How will httpd learn of the changes? Automatic reloading?
> Might need a full restart, though. After doing syntax checks
> (e.g. `apachectl -t`)? Who will parse the output of the syntax checks?
>
> I'm sure this could all be solved, given the resources.
> I'm not so sure if these resources would be spent wisely, though.
>
> cheers,
> -peter
>
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