Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 41999 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2007 15:44:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Aug 2007 15:44:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 47769 invoked by uid 500); 28 Aug 2007 15:44:37 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-users-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 47753 invoked by uid 500); 28 Aug 2007 15:44:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: users@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 47742 invoked by uid 99); 28 Aug 2007 15:44:37 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:44:37 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of brian@intercarve.net designates 66.111.59.160 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.111.59.160] (HELO moose.intercarve.net) (66.111.59.160) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:44:32 +0000 Received: by moose.intercarve.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 240FC280050; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:44:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on moose.intercarve.net X-Spam-Level: Received: from [192.168.0.10] (unknown [71.216.58.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by moose.intercarve.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D64128004D for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46D442C5.80605@intercarve.net> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:44:05 -0600 From: Brian Cohen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (X11/20070824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@httpd.apache.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Old-Spam-Flag: NO X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=10.0 tests=AWL=0.061 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb Subject: [users@httpd] Unclean restarts We are running Apache 1.3.34. On our Debian 4.0 system, each night cron.daily runs logrotate. Logrotate's postrotate script runs `/etc/init.d/apache reload` (no errors on stderr). When it is successful, top shows all apache children go , then apache restarts. But more often than not, all but 2 or 3 apache children die (without top ever showing ), the pid file is removed. Those 2 or 3 apache children continue to live and accept connections, but won't serve any requests. Since the pid file has been removed, we have to issue a `killall apache`, then `/etc/init.d/apache start` The net effect is pretty fatal. If we're not around when it happens, Apache remains effectively down until we come around to clean it up. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- Brian J. Cohen Intercarve Networks, LLC 914.552.1274 [cell] --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@httpd.apache.org