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From "Mark Lavi" <ml...@sgi.com>
Subject RE: [users@httpd] Apache Examples Extreme Web Servers
Date Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:09:20 GMT
This is off-topic from the question, but I wanted to add some
commentary.

I loved the simplicity of http://www.apachetoolbox.com/ while automated
the build of Apache, PHP, and many other modules. But alas, it's Apache
1.3.x not 2.x.

Before Apache Toolbox and since then, I've happily made my own build
scripts to check for libraries and activate modules, etc. It's the best
way to document what you did and reproduce it for your next build.

Cheers,

--Mark 
Mark Lavi, Enterprise Web Management Team @ SGI
mailto:mlavi@sgi.com || phone:+1-650-933-7707

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaqui Greenlees [mailto:jaqui_greenlees@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:54 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache Examples Extreme Web Servers

[previous quotes]

> It was thus said that the Great Jaqui Greenlees once
> stated:
> > > We are using Redhat Enterprise Linux 4, we are
> > > installing apache , php , and modules from
> source.
> >  
> > Why not use the RHEL supplied packages? it would
> > simplify the administration and patching for bugs
> and
> > security issues.
> 
>   I found the exact opposite.  Using the tarballs to
> install has been by far
> easier on me than expecting the various package
> managmenet tools to work
> correctly (I've been burned by apt-get, yum and
> emerge too many times to
> even bother with them any more).  
> 

I personally wouldn't use RHEL or Suse either, both
use YUM, both throw really stupid requirements into
package dependencies. [ what binary distro doesn't
though? ]
I was thinking more the maintenance with patching,
than the basic installation being easier with a
package manager.
DIY or LFS are the two distros I think are worth
using, a 100% from source, no automated tools build, [
DIY being build scripts, not a installer script ] no
bogus dependencies foisted on you by someone else, no
bloatware GUI forced on you, no really stupid disable
root account type decisions to have to fix. [ can ya
tell I'm not happy with most distros? ;) ]
I only once, in the last 9 years, have had a single
issue caused through an update from a distro supplied
package manager, Mandrake 8.2 broke Apache with a
mod_perl update.

Jaqui

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