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From "Mark Lavi" <ml...@sgi.com>
Subject RE: [users@httpd] Installing Apache 1.3 on Windows 2003
Date Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:02:15 GMT
For techguy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwned -- you'll get the idea.

--Mark 
Mark Lavi, Enterprise Web Management Team @ SGI
mailto:mlavi@sgi.com || phone:+1-650-933-7707

-----Original Message-----
From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:wrowe@rowe-clan.net] 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:56 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Installing Apache 1.3 on Windows 2003

Techguy wrote:
> Now that everyone has got their opinions out of the way of how behind
I am,
> is their a way to get this to work? To the person who said "I doubt
it's
> your box anymore", Why?? It is and it works, and to WOW everyone even
more,
> it's running beautifully on a 366 with 256 megs of ram.

Apache 1.3.5 is about 8 years old, and was never released.  If you run
software
that flaky, and connected to the internet, you are pwned and should
reformat
your harddrive immediately and spare us the spam and viruses you are
spewing
out on behalf of others.

> New does not necessarily mean better, and in many cases are much
worse. 

In the case of Apache 1.3 - I'm individually responsible for a vast
number
of Windows-specific bug fixes to the very hackish attempt to run Apache
using
threads, instead of separate processes.  It works (kinda) and I used it
(past
tense) myself when I was locally developing stuff on win to roll out on
real
boxes in production (not windows).  Apache 1.3 was built for fork().

In Apache 2 we scrapped that crap.  We started over designing the
internals
of apache to deal with threads, processes or whatever the Operating
System
provided us that would work effectively.  A library called APR provides
the
most generic abstraction of these concepts that we can.

So on Windows, you won't find many champions when the only source code
champion (me) has effectively said aidos to 1.3 when it's running on
Win.
The bugs that remain in 1.3 on Windows will never be fixed.  The
solution
to a new server on Windows is an Apache 2.something version.

That is as official a word as you'll ever read.

Bill

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