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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:17:51 -0500
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Thread-Topic: [users@httpd] Multiviews Problem
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From: "Fenlason, Josh" <jfenlason@ptc.com>
To: <users@httpd.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Multiviews Problem

You're correct.  I can manually type in just the language code.  I'm not
sure I'll be able to require our customers to do that, but thanks for
the suggestion. =20
I haven't read the spec myself.  According to the spec the server isn't
supposed to be allowed to fall back to the language if it doesn't have
content specific for the language and country.  Is that right?  That
would seem less than ideal to me, but I'm sure those who wrote the spec
are smarter than myself.  If that's what it says, then shame on MS for
going out of their way to blatantly disobey it.
I've had some trouble when I was trying type-maps, but I'll play around
some more since I think I understand things a little better.  Thanks for
the help.
,
Josh.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jslive@gmail.com [mailto:jslive@gmail.com] On Behalf Of=20
> Joshua Slive
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:00 AM
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Multiviews Problem
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> On 12/8/06, Fenlason, Josh <jfenlason@ptc.com> wrote:
> > Sorry I forgot to mention this is with Apache 2.2.3.  Thanks for=20
> > suggesting the link, but I've already configured that.  I can=20
> > configure Apache to server .de files if the user specifies German=20
> > language and fall back to .en files if nothing better can be=20
> > determined.  That works fine.  The problem is that with IE7=20
> you can't=20
> > select just de.  You have to select de-DE, de-AT, etc.  If=20
> the client=20
> > is configured for de-DE, Apache doesn't recognize it because it is=20
> > only configured for de and it falls back to en.  In that=20
> case I would=20
> > prefer it to serve de not fall back to en.  I suppose this could be=20
> > considered a short coming of IE7 because it doesn't allow=20
> you to specify a language without a country.
> > (What are the odds they will fix that though? :))  I know I can=20
> > configure Apache to serve de files when the user specifies de-DE.
> > However that wouldn't serve de files when the user=20
> specifies de-AT. =20
> > It would be nice if there was a way to configure Apache to serve de=20
> > files when the user specifies any variation of de.  Is that=20
> possible=20
> > with the type-map files?  Or am I out of luck?  Thanks.
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> Although I haven't tried it, I am fairly sure that IE7 does=20
> allow you to select proper language codes.  Try typing them=20
> in rather than selecting from the list.
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> I just did a quick google, and found this:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/10/17/accept-language-he
> ader-for-internet-explorer-7.aspx
> which, unfortunately, displays a stunning ignorance of the=20
> HTTP standard by specifically counseling server-authors to=20
> violate the standard.  It is very clearly stated in the=20
> standard that servers are not allowed to "simply truncat(e)=20
> the code at the first dash".  See, in particular the comment=20
> at the bottom from Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis for a full explanation.
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> You should file a bug report with Microsoft, because that=20
> decision really sucks.
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> Back to your question, yes I believe that type-maps can be=20
> used to map one resource onto many different language codes,=20
> thereby catching the different language subsets.  But I've=20
> never tried it.  If you get it to work, be sure to report back.
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> Joshua.
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