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Please pardon me for rehashing but ...

I have a Windows server running Apache 2.2. The hardware has a large amount of RAM (2+G) and a fast processor and disk drive system. Under load it too reaches some sort of saturation where the '%D' time to serve changes from .2 seconds to 30.0 or more.

Did I understand that I could split my one Apache server into two or more instances of Apache each with their own httpd.conf file running on the same box - all listening to port 80 and each separately serving a subset of my virtual hosts - ie - divide and conquer


Alex Turner <Alex.Turner@Project-Network.com> wrote: Joshua,

Thanks for you thoughts - I would have said the same thing.  I forgot to mention that the max threads per child is set sufficiently high (200) to run 64 threads already :-(  Plus, having max threads per child would not explain why apache takes several second (over 30) to recover and why no pages were served at all under that load.  It would appear than opening 64 sockets at once to Apache just 'over whelms it'.

This issue is definitely more pernicious than just max threads :-((  

Thanks

AJ


Alexander J Turner Ph.D.
www.deployview.com
www.nerds-central.blogspot.com
www.project-network.com

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From: jslive@gmail.com [mailto:jslive@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Slive
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>
> I am load testing apache 2.2.3 on windows XP.  If I attempt to open 64 or more sockets, it stops serving for a time then recovers.  I know this is not that the OS is running out of sockets etc because TAG.net handle 256 sockets simultaneously without any trouble.
>

You probably need to raise ThreadsPerChild:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mpm_common.html#threadsperchild

Unlike the unix version, apache httpd for windows does not dynamically
adjust to load.  You need to specify in advance (using
ThreadsPerChild) how many clients will be served.

Joshua.

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Please pardon me for rehashing but ...<br><br>I have a Windows server running Apache 2.2. The hardware has a large amount of RAM (2+G) and a fast processor and disk drive system. Under load it too reaches some sort of saturation where the '%D' time to serve changes from .2 seconds to 30.0 or more.<br><br>Did I understand that I could split my one Apache server into two or more instances of Apache each with their own httpd.conf file running on the same box - all listening to port 80 and each separately serving a subset of my virtual hosts - ie - divide and conquer<br><br><br><br><b><i>Alex Turner &lt;Alex.Turner@Project-Network.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Joshua,<br><br>Thanks for you thoughts - I would have said the same thing.  I forgot to mention that the max threads per child is set sufficiently high (200) to run 64 threads already :-(  Plus, having max threads per
 child would not explain why apache takes several second (over 30) to recover and why no pages were served at all under that load.  It would appear than opening 64 sockets at once to Apache just 'over whelms it'.<br><br>This issue is definitely more pernicious than just max threads :-((  <br><br>Thanks<br><br>AJ<br><br><br>Alexander J Turner Ph.D.<br>www.deployview.com<br>www.nerds-central.blogspot.com<br>www.project-network.com<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: jslive@gmail.com [mailto:jslive@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Slive<br>Sent: 12 September 2006 19:36<br>To: users@httpd.apache.org<br>Subject: TPN POSSIBLE SPAM:Re: [users@httpd] Windows max threads<br><br>&gt;<br>&gt; I am load testing apache 2.2.3 on windows XP.  If I attempt to open 64 or more sockets, it stops serving for a time then recovers.  I know this is not that the OS is running out of sockets etc because TAG.net handle 256 sockets simultaneously without any trouble.<br>&gt;<br><br>You probably
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