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From "Nia Hartman" <>
Subject RE: [users@httpd] Apache With SBC DSL
Date Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:57:39 GMT
May I suggest , I have used it for 5 years and it works great and
is simple to use.  You keep your dynamic IP addressing and the
just tracks your current ip address and reroutes your web traffic to the new
ip as it changes.  You can use it for free on a site called or park your registered name with them for about $25 per

Let me warn you that Cable may be better than DSL.  I have used both and
have had a number of problems with DSL.  First DSL requires a phone line and
mine has had lots of trouble during bad weather and is now unusable due to
my neighbor's tree in the lines.  If you have a DSL problem you have three
agencies who all point fingers at each other; 1-the phone company, 2-the
wire provider, 3-the internet provider.  I had Earthlink, Covad, and Verizon
giving me the runaround for 3 weeks before I killed my yearlong contract and
went back to cable.  With cable the lines are faster, more secure and
reliable, the tech help even seems better; I deal with time-warner and
earthlink and they have clear lines of who does what.  A nasty problem with
DSL also is that you have to use PPPOe.  If you only have one PC on the DSL
that machine has to have the software running on it and that is OK.
BUUUUUT, when you have a router on your home network the router has PPPOe in
it and handles the connection.  If you ever need tech help you have to put
your single machine on the modem which means reinstalling PPPOe on that
machine everytime you need tech help.  You can't just turn PPPOe off.  You
have to remove it from your server again when it is connected to the router.
(This may only be an XP problem but it sucks.)  The price difference is not
worth going to DSL.

From: Michael Avila [] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:30 PM
To: Apache - User Mailing List
Subject: [users@httpd] Apache With SBC DSL

This is a little off topic. I asked the question before but I have
additional information about the problem and it may make a difference. I
have been told that the IP address given depends upon location so let it be
known that I am in the Detroit area of Michigan.

Currently I have dialup and use DynDNSUpdater to change my IP address in DNS

I am going to be ordering DSL from SBC this week. I have my own PC and then
I want to have an Apache webserver on another PC. I want both hooked up to
the DSL. The DSL that I am ordering will have a dynamic IP address.

After talking to no less than 5 SBC DSL people, I know less now than before
I talked with them. I called tech support and asked if I will be getting a
routable IP address. (The person who will be doing the hookup for me told me
to ask that question.) The way she said yes caused me to ask the next
question. Is it a 192 address? Yep, you guessed it! The answer was yes.

Sooo, I need to find out how to work with the worse case scenario - that I
receive a dynamic non-routable IP address. How can people access my site
with a domain name if the dynamic address keeps changing and it is a private
network ( address? My understanding is that the modem has the
dynamic non-routable address. If a router is next and then the webserver,
how can people reach the webserver?

I hope that I explained it clear enough. Thanks in advance for any ideas.

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