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From David Blomstrom <david_blomst...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [users@httpd] mod_rewrite vs Content Management Systems
Date Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:10:00 GMT
Thanks for the information. That's all good to know.

--- Sean Conner <sean@conman.org> wrote:

> It was thus said that the Great David Blomstrom once
> stated:
> > 
> > I don't understand this file system, but it sounds
> > like you're referring to folders that list
> articles
> > about various species. 
> 
>   Yes. [1]
> 
> > In fact, my pages will consist
> > of a variety of articles, as well as snippets of
> > information  from a MySQL database.
> > 
> > For example, consider two static pages, each with
> a
> > different $mycode value on the head section:
> > 
> > $mycode = 'wolf';
> > $mycode = 'tiger';
> > 
> > One would draw data related to the wolf from the
> > database, while the other would display
> information
> > about the tiger.
> > 
> > I haven't yet figured out how CMS's use a single
> page
> > or template to display different articles. But it
> > seems like it could be done by simply replacing
> > $mycode = 'wolf'; with a variable - $mycode =
> > '[VARIABLE]';
> 
>   Well, I can explain how my CMS [2] works.  It's a
> blog, but hey, even
> blogging software is a CMS if you look at it the
> right way.  Anyway, I have
> URLs like:
> 
> 	http://boston.conman.org/2005/08/01.1
> 
>   I have Apache rewrite (using mod-rewrite) the URL
> as:
> 
> 	RewriteBase /
> 	RewriteRule ^([0-9][0-9])(.*) nph-boston.cgi/$1$2
> [L]
> 
>   Or basically, it turns the URL into:
> 
> 
> http://boston.conman.org/nph-boston.cgi/2005/08/01.1
> 
>   Apache then runs the request through my CGI
> program, which looks at the
> rest of the reuest, "/2005/08/01.1".  It then
> figures out what page it
> requested, gathers the data, and then spits out a
> page through a template. 
> 
>   The template looks somethink like this (lots and
> lots of extraneous
> HTML removed):
> 
> 	<html>
>  	  <head>
> 	    <title>The Boston Diaries</title>
> 	  </head>
> 	  <body>
> 	    <div class="header"> ... </div>
> 	    <div class="content">
> 
> 		%{entries}%
> 
> 	    </div>
> 	  </body>
> 	</html>
> 
>   The script just copies out verbatim the template
> until it gets to
> "%{entries}%", at which point it spits out the
> requested entry (there can be
> more than one by the way---if you go to
> <http://boston.conman.org/2005/08>
> it will spit out an entire month's worth of
> entries).  The "%{...}%"
> construct is how my template engine knows to do some
> extra processing;
> there's %{update.time}% which causes my CMS to
> generate the time the page
> was last modified for instance.  
> 
>   Other CMS systems have different ways of marking
> special processing
> instructions.  But generally, they work simularly.
> 
> > Then, if a visitor clicked a link to kangaroo,
> that
> > would somehow be translated to $mycode =
> 'kangaroo';.
> > 
> > And since my database will include a variety of
> > scientific names and common names - like wolf,
> Canis
> > lupus, etc. - it should be relatively easy to
> insert
> > those in my URL's. For example, a URL might look
> > something like this:
> > 
> > www.geozoo.org/stacks;id=Canis_lupus
> > 
> > I would then like to use mod_rewrite to clean it
> up so
> > that it displays it like this:
> > 
> > www.geozoo.org/stacks/Canis_lupus
> > 
> > It would also be cool if it could display
> additional
> > search engine-friendly links from my database,
> like...
> > 
> > www.geozoo.org/stacks/wolf
> > www.geozoo.org/stacks/Canis_lupus
> > www.geozoo.org/stacks/loupe
> > 
> > But the message I'm getting is that this is hard
> to do
> > with mod_rewrite, so I'd be better off sticking
> with a
> > CMS.
> 
>   Not hard per se, but without information about how
> your CMS takes queries,
> it's hard to come up with a definite answer.  
> 
> 	RewriteRule ^(.*)/(.*)
> cmsengine.cgi?area=$1?topic=$2
> 
>   is an example, but without knowing what the CMS
> engine is called, or what
> CGI parameters it wants, it's hard to give a good
> clean answer.
> 
>   -spc
> 
> [1]	"Filesystem" refers to the structure used to
> store files and
> 	directories (or subdirectories, or folders) on a
> harddrive.
> 
> [2]	http://boston.conman.org/about/
> 	
> 
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