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From "Boyle Owen" <>
Subject RE: [users@httpd] Apache hangs on startup without error messages - doesn't spawn children
Date Thu, 28 Jul 2005 06:10:23 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Fitzsimmons []
> Sent: Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2005 06:32
> To:
> Subject: [users@httpd] Apache hangs on startup without error 
> messages -
> doesn't spawn children
> Here's a doozy of a problem has made me bleary eyed with lack 
> of sleep.
>  I can deal with errors, but not when there are no error messages.
> Hopefully someone out there has experienced something like 
> this problem
> before.

Just a couple of ideas...

- DNS: is it working? If apache needs it to resolve IPs (eg, if you have VH tags containing
a domain instead of an IP) and it isn't working, apache can get stuck.

- Hanging forever is sometimes due to an errant firewall - it silently drops the packet rather
than refusing the connection, that way an attacker can't distinguish between active security
and network latency. Did you enable/adjust  the FW (ipchains?) on the server?

- you have: apache + server_1 = broken, apache + server_2 = works
therefore server_1 != server_2
So what changed on server_1? Any chance of a re-install?

Owen Boyle
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> I have been running an Apache 2 server for several months on a Linux
> Fedora Core 2 Virtual Private Server.  The server has 
> guaranteed 256 MB
> of RAM. The Apache 2 is used for development purposes only.  
> The Apache
> is configured with mod_python and with subversion/webdav.
> Earlier today I try to access the web site and my browser hangs.  It
> does not say "connection refused", it does not say "connection
> timeout," it hangs for as long as I let it, even as long as a half an
> hour if I don't hit the stop button.
> When I do apachectl -k stop, it says, "httpd (no pid file) not
> running."  But the process list shows that it's still running.  I kill
> the process and the browser finally responds "connection closed."   I
> start the Apache again, try and connect, and the browser hangs once
> again.  I try cleaning out the PID files, rebooting the server, and
> checking all the access and error log, but to no avail.
> Everything else on the VPS works fine.  I have a version of Apache1.3
> running fine.  SSH, the FTP server, and MySQL are all working too.  My
> VPS power panel shows that system resources are well below critical
> levels.
> I get so frustrated I install a clean version of Apache, in a separate
> folder, running on a separate port.  But the exact same problem
> happens!  Then I try switching to a different server that I 
> run, and do
> the exact same Apache installation - and it works!
> So for some reason Apache2 all of a sudden just stopped 
> deciding to run
> on this one server, and I cannot do anything to get it back, not even
> rebooting.
> On the server where Apache works, after I start it and I run ps -Af I
> get:
> root     27642     1  0 15:27 ?        00:00:00
> /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd -k start
> nobody   27643 27642  0 15:27 ?        00:00:00
> /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd -k start
> nobody   27644 27642  0 15:27 ?        00:00:00
> /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd -k start
> nobody   27645 27642  0 15:27 ?        00:00:00
> /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd -k start
> nobody   27646 27642  0 15:27 ?        00:00:00
> /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd -k start
> But on the server where it doesn't work I just get this:
> root     20352     1  0 15:48 ?        00:00:00
> /usr/local/apache3/bin/httpd -k start
> So I have decided that the problem is that Apache is not 
> spawning child
> processes.
> The browser makes a socket connection to the server, but Apache has no
> child process to pass the connection off to, so the browser just waits
> forever to get a response back.
> The question is, how in the world do I fix this?  Why did it 
> happen all
> of a sudden out of nowhere?
> Halp appreciated!
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