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From "John Canderan" <dcbu...@dcbuddy.com>
Subject RE: [users@httpd] access to user directories
Date Mon, 30 May 2005 13:53:59 GMT
Owen,
	Thanks very much for your detailed suggestions.  However, I have
suspected unix permissions to be the problem from the very beginning, and
believe that I have them set correctly, as I mentioned early on.  
	Let me try and show them to you, starting with the "home" dir:

drwxr-xr-x    4 root root  4096 May 25 13:20 home

drwxr-xr-x  30 canderan canderan 4096 May 29 00:52 canderan

drwxr-xr-x  3 canderan canderan    4096 May 27 06:04 public_html

drwxrwxr-x  2 canderan canderan 4096 May 25 13:03 crap
-rw-r--r--  1 canderan canderan   49 May 25 09:40 index.html

(the dir "crap" and the file "index.html" are in the public_html dir)

Could there possibly be something with these permissions that is causing the
problem?  Now, let me also say that the files in /var/www/html (the web dir
for the box) can be accessed from the Internet, no problem, and I notice
that the permissions for those dirs and files are relatively the same as I
have for the user dirs and files as shown above.

Having thought that the permissions were set correctly, I have been focusing
on possible problems with the httpd.conf file.  Have tried everything that
anyone has suggested there, with no luck !

Thanks again,
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Boyle Owen [mailto:Owen.Boyle@swx.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 3:54 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] access to user directories



> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Canderan [mailto:dcbuddy@dcbuddy.com]
> Sent: Freitag, 27. Mai 2005 17:20
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [users@httpd] access to user directories
> 
> 
> Here's  "cut and paste" from the error_log file:
> [Fri May 27 06:42:33 2005] [error] [client 66.92.146.208] 
> (13)Permission
> denied: access to /~canderan denied
> 
> That's all I'm getting !

That's actually tons....

The browser gets a 403 Forbidden when either of *two* apache errors occur:
1) "client denied by server configuration": caused by a "Deny from"
directive in apache config.
2) "Permission denied": caused by insufficient Unix access privileges.

Not that *neither* contains the string "access denied", so I hope you now
realise why it is essential to cut'n'paste error messages and not to try to
type them in from memory.

So now go and fix the unix permissions and all will be well.

[hint: I suppose /~canderan points to your home directory, so check that it
is executable and readable by others (eg, 755), or if you don't want to
allow that, put you and apache in the same group and make it executable and
readable by group (eg, 750) or whatever].

Rgds,
Owen Boyle
Disclaimer: Any disclaimer attached to this message may be ignored. 

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boyle Owen [mailto:Owen.Boyle@swx.com] 
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 6:59 AM
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [users@httpd] access to user directories
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Canderan [mailto:dcbuddy@dcbuddy.com]
> > Sent: Freitag, 27. Mai 2005 12:50
> > To: users@httpd.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: [users@httpd] access to user directories
> > 
> > 
> > I've checked it quite a few times...........it just says "access
> > denied", that's all ...........nothing specific to go on !
> 
> Isn't it more like: "client denied by server configuration... 
> etc"? Please
> cut'n'paste the *exact* line.
> 
> Sorry to put you out, but the exact wording is important and 
> can distinguish
> several possible causes.
> 
> Rgds,
> Owen Boyle
> Disclaimer: Any disclaimer attached to this message may be ignored. 
> 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Boyle Owen [mailto:Owen.Boyle@swx.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 6:41 AM
> > To: users@httpd.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: [users@httpd] access to user directories
> > 
> > You must've missed the line in David's original response:
> > 
> > > Check the error_log, there should be a clearer message.
> > 
> > So what does it say?
> > 
> > Rgds,
> > Owen Boyle
> > Disclaimer: Any disclaimer attached to this message may be ignored. 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Canderan [mailto:dcbuddy@dcbuddy.com]
> > > Sent: Freitag, 27. Mai 2005 12:09
> > > To: users@httpd.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: [users@httpd] access to user directories
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Davide,
> > > 	Thanks for your suggestions.  
> > > However, I do have an index.html file in the public_html 
> > > directory, and
> > > I'm quite sure that the permissions are set as they are 
> > > supposed to be.
> > > 
> > > 	I also do have the <Directory ...  block that you suggested, as
> > > follows:
> > > <Directory /home/*/public_html>
> > >     AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit
> > >     Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec
> > >     <Limit GET POST OPTIONS>
> > >         Order allow,deny
> > >         Allow from all
> > >     </Limit>
> > >     <LimitExcept GET POST OPTIONS>
> > >         Order deny,allow
> > >         Deny from all
> > >     </LimitExcept>
> > > </Directory>
> > > 
> > > Is there something wrong with this particular block?  It's the one
> > > suggested for "read-only", by default.
> > > 
> > > But, I still get the error as stated previously.
> > > 
> > > I'm perplexed !
> > > 
> > > Hope someone can figure this out.
> > > 
> > > Thanks again,
> > > John
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Davide Bianchi [mailto:davide@onlyforfun.net] 
> > > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 12:28 AM
> > > To: users@httpd.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [users@httpd] access to user directories
> > > 
> > > John Canderan wrote:
> > > > However, I can not get it to deliver web pages for users.  I am
> > > storing
> > > > the html pages at /home/<user>/public_html, and I am 
> > quite sure that
> > > the
> > > > file permissions are set correctly.  I have also set "UserDir
> > > > pubic_html" in httpd.conf. 
> > > 
> > > Plain text post only please,
> > > 
> > > You should also have a <Directory /home/*/public_html> block
> > > detailing what you can and cannot do in there. But from your
> > > error I think that you miss an index.html file in the
> > > public html directory.
> > > Check the error_log, there should be a clearer message.
> > > 
> > > Davide
> > > 
> > > 
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