Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 23316 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2005 16:39:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Feb 2005 16:39:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 51515 invoked by uid 500); 2 Feb 2005 16:39:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-users-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 51493 invoked by uid 500); 2 Feb 2005 16:39:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk Reply-To: users@httpd.apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list users@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 51479 invoked by uid 99); 2 Feb 2005 16:39:25 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,NO_REAL_NAME X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from mhtmail01.mail.nypl.org (HELO mhtmail01.mail.nypl.org) (149.123.26.21) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:39:24 -0800 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:40:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@httpd.apache.org Cc: From: PMilanese@nypl.org X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook v 11.00.6353, MSOC v 2.00.4007.00 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on MHTMAIL01/MHT/Nypl(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 02/02/2005 11:40:21 AM, Serialize complete at 02/02/2005 11:40:21 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Checked: Checked Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache Performance Issue X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Is apache doing dns resolutions? HostnameLookups... > -----Original Message----- > From: Grader, Matt - AES [mailto:Matt.Grader@itt.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:24 AM > To: users@httpd.apache.org > Subject: [users@httpd] Apache Performance Issue > > > Hello, > > We have observed several bizarre performance issues with Apache that I am > hoping someone out there has experienced, and can detail the root cause of > the problem and what steps are needed to correct it. > > > We have noticed poor performance from several different machines running > older versions of IE (usually IE 4 or 5 but sometimes IE 6). On these > machines and browser configurations (and only these) every 4th - 5th page > request hangs. A page that loaded fine five minutes ago may hang now - > there is no consistently in what pages hang. The page usually partially > loads and then stops loading for 2 up to 8 minutes at which point the page > will continue loading until completion. Our pages are very small (around > 200k for html + images) and the machines we tested each had a broadband > connection (Using Firefox the pages load in around 5 seconds). > > Our configuration was Apache 2.0.44 with SybPerl 1.2 (an old Sybase perl > application). > > We have done the following trying to discover the root cause: > > 1. Add logging to our SybPerl scripts. We found that during a hang, > the script executes successfully and in a normal amount of time (less than > 2 seconds) > 2. Examined the Apache logs and increased the loglevel. During a hang > Apache does not log either an access or error (even though from our > SybPerl logs we know the script is called and fully executes). At the > highest reporting loglevels we see the following error: > [info] (32)Broken pipe: core_output_filter: writing data to the network > > 3. Packet Sniffed the connection. When the client sends a request and > hangs, it sends the first request successfully and opens a connection (tcp > three way handshake). This connection eventually dies and the client > sends a new request several minutes later (2-8 minutes) and then fully > loads the page. We did detect ICMP messages being sent when a hang > occurs, but these are blocked by our firewall (which our Network > Administrator assures me is normal for security reasons). > > We have noticed that two things will resolve the issue: > > 1. In the internet settings of the computer experiencing the problem, > disable HTTP 1.1 and use HTTP 1.0 instead. No hangs occur. > > OR > > 2. Roll back Apache to v1.3 (the latest) from our original 2.0.44. > > At the moment we have resolved the problem by rolling back Apache, but we > would still like to migrate to Apache 2 sometime in the future. If you > have any constructive ideas / suggestions your help would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks. > > Matt > matt.grader@itt.com > > > ************************************ > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are proprietary and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please > note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those > of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Industries, > Inc. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the > presence of viruses. 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