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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] HELP! PLEASE!
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What TelNet Client should I use?  I've been looking around, can't
really find a good one.


On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 17:20:29 -0500, Tim Burden <tim@burden.ca> wrote:
> Open your telnet app, connect to the server name or IP address in question
> on port 80 (this differs depending on your version of telnet, so you'll have
> to figure it out), and type the following (I'll borrow the syntax from
> another fellow recently):
> 
> HEAD /myfile.swf HTTP/1.1<ENTER>
> Host:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx<ENTER>
> <ENTER>
> 
> Then capture that output and paste it here. The idea is to sort of mimic
> what your browser is actually sending and get a look at the response
> headers. If we're lucky it'll actually send a mime type, a content length
> and other goodies.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Corey Woodcox" <disguised.jedi@gmail.com>
> To: <users@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] HELP! PLEASE!
> 
> > Could you say that in a little more plain english, or send me a
> > sample?  I'm afraid I don't really know what you are talking about.
> >
> > Thanks . . .
> > --
> > The Disguised Jedi - Corey Woodcox
> > disguised.jedi@gmail.com
> >
> > PHP rocks!
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:15:51 -0500, Tim Burden <tim@burden.ca> wrote:
> > > Try telnetting to the server on port 80 and issue a HEAD request for the
> > > file. Let us see the output of that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Corey Woodcox" <disguised.jedi@gmail.com>
> > > To: "Emyr Tomos" <emyr.tomos@bbc.co.uk>
> > > Cc: <users@httpd.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:09 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [users@httpd] HELP! PLEASE!
> > >
> > > > I didn't write the app, but I have the original source, no other
> > > > document is being referenced.  If i load the HTML by bypassing apache
> > > > altogether (file://C:/[path]) it works great, it all runs, and
> > > > everything, which makes me think it's an apache problem.  I've read
> > > > elsewhere on the web that it sometimes has to do with a MIME
> > > > configuration problem, but i've checked and double checked, even
> > > > written in a *.flash file type and tried that...no results from
> > > > either.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you all for your responses!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Disguised Jedi - Corey Woodcox
> > > > disguised.jedi@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > PHP rocks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:13:47 -0000, Emyr Tomos <emyr.tomos@bbc.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > FYI
> > > > > this is an accurate description of how Flash is often used, but it
> is
> > > > > not something built into it; the more general scenario is this:
> > > > > 1.EMBED tag instructs built-in client-side plug in to fetch  SWF
> file
> > > > > with src attribute
> > > > > 2.SWF code is loaded and runs
> > > > > 3.SWF code can contain inside itself certain instructions for the
> flash
> > > > > plugin to fetch further data and classes from remote sources; these
> > > > > sources will be coded in the Flash app unless you use the javascript
> > > > > interface to send it instructions, which it doesn't sound as if
> you're
> > > > > doing.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's become a convention that a Flash app will first send a loading
> > > > > screen + instruction to fetch further classes to improve uer
> perception,
> > > > > .
> > > > > Who wrote the Flash app? Do you have the source code? Where is it
> trying
> > > > > to load the further classes and data from?
> > > > > Is there maybe a path coded in the SWF which isn't under your
> docroot?
> > > > > (Check error logs to see if you get a 404 for a .swf request)
> > > > > Does it point to some other IP/Domain, in which case it won't appear
> in
> > > > > your error logs.
> > > > > Just speculation ...
> > > > > em
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Corey Woodcox [mailto:disguised.jedi@gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: 03 November 2004 22:00
> > > > > To: users@httpd.apache.org; vancel@winfreeacademy.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [users@httpd] HELP! PLEASE!
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, this is the process as far as I know.  However, accessing my
> laptop
> > > > > from a remote computer (with a different IP) doesn't work either.  I
> am
> > > > > puzzled as to why this won't work, as it just doesn't make sense.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Disguised Jedi - Corey Woodcox
> > > > > disguised.jedi@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > PHP rocks!
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:24:46 -0600, Laura Vance
> > > > > <vancel@winfreeacademy.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the "Loading" screen have to
> be
> > > > > > loaded from the server to even run?  Or, a better way to ask the
> > > > > > question is, doesn't the loader have to be transmitted from the
> server
> > > > >
> > > > > > before it can start loading its data?  This may not be making any
> > > > > > sense, so I'll do a scenario.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My understanding of flash is this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. browser contacts server to request file (in this case, flash
> > > > > > application) 2. server sends flash app (loader) back to browser 3.
> > > > > > flash app runs then connects back to the server to retrieve the
> data
> > > > > > (fancy "loading" screen is displayed) 4. server replies by sending
> > > > > > data that the flash loader requested. 5. flash animation plays and
> > > > > > everyone is happy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It sounds like yours is breaking down somewhere in step 3.  If
> this is
> > > > >
> > > > > > true, then your problem is how your flash loader app connects to
> the
> > > > > > server to retrieve the actual data/classes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Might there be a firewall on your laptop that is not on the
> server?
> > > > > > Might the flash loader be trying to connect to an IP address and
> your
> > > > > > laptop doesn't understand since it's on the same machine?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If apache never served the loader to your browser, wouldn't it
> just
> > > > > > show a blank space where the flash was supposed to go?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, I've never programmed flash myself, but this is my
> > > > > > understanding of the flash "handshake" to get an app loaded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Corey Woodcox wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Same thing...just sits on the "Loading..." and Flash says "movie
> not
> > > > > > >loaded".  Thank you for your quick responses!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Laura Vance
> > > > > > Systems Engineer
> > > > > > Winfree Academy Charter Schools
> > > > > > 6221 Riverside Dr. Suite 110
> > > > > > Irving, Tx  75039
> > > > > > Web: www.winfreeacademy.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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