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From "Andre Schild" <A.Sch...@aarboard.ch>
Subject Antw: RE: [users@httpd] Narrowing Down A Strange Problem
Date Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:07:07 GMT
When I do a traceroute from our site,
then we get no connection too.

Routenverfolgung zu www.cyber0ne.com [65.4.93.122]  über maximal 30 Abschnitte:

  1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  192.168.200.5
  2    16 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  rtaarboard1.aarboard.ch [195.48.144.1]
  3   172 ms   250 ms    15 ms  194.191.191.57
  4   <10 ms    16 ms    15 ms  Biel100.ch.vianw.net [146.228.18.1]
  5    16 ms    16 ms    15 ms  146.228.50.133
  6    15 ms    16 ms    16 ms  zrhzs1000.ch.vianw.net [146.228.60.17]
  7    31 ms    31 ms    16 ms  zrhth1000.ch.vianw.net [146.228.253.42]
  8    15 ms    16 ms    16 ms  zrch-s1-rou-1001.CH.eurorings.net [134.222.124.2
49]
  9    16 ms    31 ms    16 ms  zrch-s1-rou-1003.CH.eurorings.net [134.222.124.3
]
 10    31 ms    32 ms    31 ms  nntr-s1-rou-1001.FR.eurorings.net [134.222.228.1
81]
 11    32 ms    31 ms    47 ms  ledn-rou-1001.NL.eurorings.net [134.222.230.49]

 12   109 ms   125 ms   125 ms  ewr-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [134.222.254.2]
 13   109 ms   110 ms   125 ms  ewr-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.17.125]
 14   125 ms   109 ms   125 ms  jfk-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.246]
 15   110 ms   109 ms   125 ms  jfk-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.30.18]
 16   110 ms   109 ms   156 ms  205.171.4.10
 17   110 ms   125 ms   109 ms  0.so-1-1-0.XL1.NYC8.ALTER.NET [152.63.19.46]
 18   110 ms   140 ms   110 ms  0.so-1-0-0.TL1.NYC8.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.137]
 19   125 ms   141 ms   125 ms  0.so-4-1-0.TL1.ATL5.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.129]
 20   140 ms   141 ms   141 ms  0.so-6-0-0.XL1.ATL5.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.101]
 21   125 ms   141 ms   140 ms  0.so-6-0-0.GW13.ATL5.ALTER.NET [152.63.84.105]
 22   125 ms   140 ms   141 ms  bellsouth-atl5-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.71
.170]
 23   125 ms   140 ms   141 ms  axr00asm-1-0-0.bellsouth.net [65.83.236.3]
 24   140 ms   141 ms   156 ms  ixc00cae-8-1-1.bellsouth.net [65.83.237.53]
 25   141 ms   140 ms   141 ms  205.152.135.81
 26   140 ms   141 ms   140 ms  68.152.231.138
 27     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
 28     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
 29     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
 30     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.

Ablaufverfolgung beendet.


Realy looks like a lot of hops...

>>> ddonahue@ccs.neu.edu 15.09.2004 17:55:30 >>>
So far people who can view the site are in:
  South Carolina
  North Carolina
  Missouri
  Arkansas
And people who can not are int:
  Massachusetts
  New York
  California

The only pattern I can derive from that data is the number of hops in
the route.


-----Original Message-----
From: Aman Raheja [mailto:araheja@techquotes.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 11:53 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org 
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Narrowing Down A Strange Problem


 From how many different locations / ISPs / people you have seen this 
problem?
I am from St Louis and am able to see the site.
Thanks

David P. Donahue wrote:

>>>Did work fine for me. What is the error people get
>>>who can't access it for whatever reason and how do
>>>you know that there is this 1250 byte limit?
>>>Aman Raheja
>>>      
>>>
>
>No error is received for >1250b responses, it just never gets to the 
>client. I haven't narrowed it down to a specific byte size, but the 
>pattern of positive results vs. time-outs seems to hold at 
>approximately 1250 bytes.  I've made a large number of GET requests and

>the pattern has held.  Even directory listings from Apache itself fit 
>the pattern if there are enough files in the directory to bring the 
>generated response above the 1250-ish-byte line.
>
>If you were able to view the site, might I ask your general location 
>and/or ISP?
>
>
>David P. Donahue wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Before I get into the details of my problem, let me specify that it is
>>my belief that the Apache software (version 1.3.31) is _not_ at fault 
>>for this and I am just looking to either: 1) confirm that and look for

>>solutions elsewhere; or 2) be proven wrong and hopefully solve the 
>>problem here and now.
>>
>>The Scenario:
>> I have a simple website with a bunch of static files that is in place
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>for no other reason than to test connectivity and other issues before 
>>I
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>work on the new site(s).  For the curious, this site is located at
>>http://www.cyber0ne.com and, keep in mind, a lot of the functionality 
>>of the site itself is broken and it's a crappy old site from when I
was
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>in college.
>>
>>The Symptoms:
>> Browse to the site from the localhost (0 hops): no problems.  Browse 
>>to the site from LAN hosts (1 hop): no problems.  Browse to the site 
>>from hosts in the general metropolitan vecinity (few hops): no 
>>problems.  Browse to the site from across the country (many hops): 
>>strange problems seen.
>>   Requests are sent to the server, noted in its logs, responded to as
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>usual.  However, only responses (just simple GET requests for static
>>files here) with fewer than approximately 1250 bytes are received by 
>>the client.  Server logs show nothing out of the ordinary, but 
>>responses greater than approximately 1250 bytes are never received by 
>>the client and time out.
>>
>>The Question(s):
>> Has anyone seen anything like this before?
>> Can you think of _anything_ in Apache which may result in such
>>behavior?
>> Can you, from wherever you are, access the site? (The root index page
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>exceeds the 1250-ish-byte limitation so, if you can see that, you
>>should be good.)
>>
>>
>>    
>>


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