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From "Patrick O'Neal" <>
Subject RE: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.
Date Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:23:03 GMT
Well since the name is resolving correctly on all of the client computers on
the LAN, which they get all of there DNS info from the Router, I would say
that DNS is fine. I believe the real problem must be in how the router's
firewall is handling the traffic. I am just not sure why the LAN computers
get a timed out error when they try to go to the website by its real name or
its real outside IP address but when I put in the address of the local
server it works great. It really makes me believe that is a firewall issue.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Jeroen van Meeuwen []
  Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 8:25 AM
  Subject: RE: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.

  And how about the DNS relay server on your router?

  Kind regards,


    From: mbastreak []
    Sent: dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 15:01
    Subject: RE: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.

    No, there is no proxy server. The Router does everything. What is
interesting is that when I ping the website from any of the clients on the
LAN they resolve the name correctly and even if I type in the direct WAN
address of the router I still can't bring up the webpage, only when I type
in the direct address of the server can I bring up the website.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jeroen van Meeuwen []
      Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 6:16 AM
      Subject: RE: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.

      I'm sorry, first reply didn't make any sense...

      I'm presuming you have a proxy server (configured on all clients on
your LAN):

      Bypass local addresses

      Then, I'm presuming you have a router which forwards DNS requests:

      Configure the router NOT to query outside-world DNS servers when
clients try and resolve your domain names.
      You're router has a priority in resolving DNS queries (weither from
clients or from itself), use this priority. Namely the hosts file on your
router could help you. Most routers though have a DNS relay server, which
could be configured to answer without relaying the client's requests

      Kind regards,



      From: Zoe Ballz []
      Sent: dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 10:51
      Subject: Re: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.


        From the outside world, your site has an IP. This is the IP of your
ROUTER and not the server itself, but your router passes the requests
through to your server, thus the server appears to work ok.

        From inside your network, DNS will give other machines the SAME IP
and point people to your router. Your router probably doesn't know what to
do with the requests and ignores them. From an internal network the IP of
your server will be different to the outside world.

        Try setting up a HOSTS file on each machine on your network. You
should find details on how to do this in the documentation of the operating
systems on the other machines. e.g. on windows 98 you edit a file called
HOSTS in the windows directory, and put in an entry like the following:

        where 123.123 etc is the LOCAL IP of your server.

        This will cause the machine in questions to bypass the DNS lookup
for the domain, and override it, sending the request to the IP you specify
(i.e. your local IP of your server)

        I hope this helps

        All the best

 - Website Hosting for the Transgendered
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: mbastreak
          Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:47 AM
          Subject: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.

          I have a problem, that I am sure I have seen posted to this list
before but
          I can't seem to find the answer and I sure don't know how to
search for it
          using google, as it is a complicated question to ask but requires
a simple
          answer. Anyway to get down to the details:

          OS: windows 2000 Workstation
          BUILD: Standard install from Apache website, installed as an .msi
file and
          no extra modules
          CAYMAN Netopia 3564 Business Class DSL router and DSL running DHCP
and NAT.
          Firwall: a pinhole setup to allow TCP ports 80-85 to the internal
          on the internal port of 80.

          Problem: The website works great to the outside world everyone can
see it
          and nothing is wrong, however when it comes to anyone on LAN, they
can not
          see it unless type in the IP address of the computer hosting the
website. I
          know I have seen an answer to this before so please can someone
refresh my


          Patrick O'Neal

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