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From "Zoe Ballz" <>
Subject Re: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.
Date Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:38:06 GMT
Have you tried the HOSTS file like I said before? What happened? Please give exact examples
of the addressed you are referring to. When you say "resolve then name correctly" what exactly
did it resolve to? If you don't want to publicise the details on the forum, email me direct.
This is a network issue and probe not an Apache issue so sorry to those people who think this
is "off subject".

Zoe - Website Hosting for the Transgendered Community
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Patrick O'Neal 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:23 PM
  Subject: RE: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.

  Well since the name is resolving correctly on all of the client computers on the LAN, which
they get all of there DNS info from the Router, I would say that DNS is fine. I believe the
real problem must be in how the router's firewall is handling the traffic. I am just not sure
why the LAN computers get a timed out error when they try to go to the website by its real
name or its real outside IP address but when I put in the address of the local server it works
great. It really makes me believe that is a firewall issue.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jeroen van Meeuwen []
    Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 8:25 AM
    Subject: RE: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.

    And how about the DNS relay server on your router?

    Kind regards,


      From: mbastreak [] 
      Sent: dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 15:01
      Subject: RE: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.

      No, there is no proxy server. The Router does everything. What is interesting is that
when I ping the website from any of the clients on the LAN they resolve the name correctly
and even if I type in the direct WAN address of the router I still can't bring up the webpage,
only when I type in the direct address of the server can I bring up the website.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeroen van Meeuwen []
        Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 6:16 AM
        Subject: RE: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.

        I'm sorry, first reply didn't make any sense...

        I'm presuming you have a proxy server (configured on all clients on your LAN):

        Bypass local addresses

        Then, I'm presuming you have a router which forwards DNS requests:

        Configure the router NOT to query outside-world DNS servers when clients try and resolve
your domain names.
        You're router has a priority in resolving DNS queries (weither from clients or from
itself), use this priority. Namely the hosts file on your router could help you. Most routers
though have a DNS relay server, which could be configured to answer without relaying the client's

        Kind regards,



        From: Zoe Ballz [] 
        Sent: dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 10:51
        Subject: Re: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.


          From the outside world, your site has an IP. This is the IP of your ROUTER and not
the server itself, but your router passes the requests through to your server, thus the server
appears to work ok.

          From inside your network, DNS will give other machines the SAME IP and point people
to your router. Your router probably doesn't know what to do with the requests and ignores
them. From an internal network the IP of your server will be different to the outside world.

          Try setting up a HOSTS file on each machine on your network. You should find details
on how to do this in the documentation of the operating systems on the other machines. e.g.
on windows 98 you edit a file called HOSTS in the windows directory, and put in an entry like
the following:

          where 123.123 etc is the LOCAL IP of your server.

          This will cause the machine in questions to bypass the DNS lookup for the domain,
and override it, sending the request to the IP you specify (i.e. your local IP of your server)

          I hope this helps

          All the best


 - Website Hosting for the Transgendered Community
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: mbastreak 
            Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:47 AM
            Subject: [users@httpd] problem displaying website.

            I have a problem, that I am sure I have seen posted to this list before but
            I can't seem to find the answer and I sure don't know how to search for it
            using google, as it is a complicated question to ask but requires a simple
            answer. Anyway to get down to the details:

            OS: windows 2000 Workstation
            BUILD: Standard install from Apache website, installed as an ..msi file and
            no extra modules
            CAYMAN Netopia 3564 Business Class DSL router and DSL running DHCP and NAT.
            Firwall: a pinhole setup to allow TCP ports 80-85 to the internal webserver
            on the internal port of 80.

            Problem: The website works great to the outside world everyone can see it
            and nothing is wrong, however when it comes to anyone on LAN, they can not
            see it unless type in the IP address of the computer hosting the website. I
            know I have seen an answer to this before so please can someone refresh my


            Patrick O'Neal

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