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From "Michael" <x...@xshellr8.com>
Subject RE: [users@httpd] Strange copy of index.htm that is not in the DocumentRoot on Apache/1.3.27
Date Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:20:09 GMT
Yeah, sorry I forgot to mention that it wasn't reachable:

Not Found
The requested URL /index.htm was not found on this server.

Apache/1.3.27 Server at tutorial.ljnetconsultants.com Port 80

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Chad Jackson [LJNet Consultants] [mailto:chadj@ljnetconsultants.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:01 AM
To: xeon@xshellr8.com; users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Strange copy of index.htm that is not in the
DocumentRoot on Apache/1.3.27

Michael,

I get the right response, it is the LJNet Logo and a under construction
graphic. I have a site called default which I copy to all new customer
sites, until they post for the first time.

Have you looked at the page did it come up for you

Regards
Chad


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:xeon@xshellr8.com]
Sent: 15 June 2004 05:53
To: 'Chad Jackson [LJNet Consultants]'; users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Strange copy of index.htm that is not in the
DocumentRoot on Apache/1.3.27


OK, what happens when you use the IP instead of the DN?

It could be that your DNS is not right for that IP specified and that's
what's redirecting it so to speak.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Chad Jackson [LJNet Consultants] [mailto:chadj@ljnetconsultants.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:46 AM
To: xeon@xshellr8.com; users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Strange copy of index.htm that is not in the
DocumentRoot on Apache/1.3.27

Michael.

Just taken this a step further to confirm that it is getting the files
across the net and not from a local cache. I setup a trace on the network
and sure enough it is getting the file from the apache server.

Here is the Virtual host conf, with the directory and the Directory listing

------------
cat /var/apache/conf/VW/tutorial.ljnetconsultants.com
<VirtualHost 196.3.167.92>
    ServerName tutorial.ljnetconsultants.com
    DocumentRoot /var/apache/VW/tutorial.ljnetconsultants.com
</VirtualHost>
------------
pwd
/var/apache/VW/tutorial.ljnetconsultants.com

------------
ls -lar /var/apache/VW/tutorial.ljnetconsultants.com/
total 4
drwxr-xr-x  14 root     root         512 Jun 15 13:25 ..
drwxr-xr-x   2 chad     other        512 Jun 15 11:56 .


Try the following url and see if you get the page.
http://tutorial.ljnetconsultants.com/index.htm

Regards
Chad



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:xeon@xshellr8.com]
Sent: 15 June 2004 05:03
To: 'Chad Jackson [LJNet Consultants]'; users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Strange copy of index.htm that is not in the
DocumentRoot on Apache/1.3.27


Well, like I said, I don't see how that's possible. If you have indeed
deleted that site and it's pointing to the new index.* there is no way that
it could be from the old server.

Is the old site backed up somewhere near the old one and is possibly
pointing to this backed up location?  That's the only way I could see this
happening.

Stranger things have happened however but I'm simply speculating on what it
could be.  I would seriously clear all cache's despite what you've indicated
here, just to be sure.

Totally guessing here,

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Chad Jackson [LJNet Consultants] [mailto:chadj@ljnetconsultants.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 7:53 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org; xeon@xshellr8.com
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Strange copy of index.htm that is not in the
DocumentRoot on Apache/1.3.27

Thanks for the reply,

Strange thing is that I have tried on Windows XP and Win 2000, and thought
the same thing, that it was the browser cache. Strange thing is that after
the site was deleted and I was not sure what was causing this, I used the
browser in my redhat server, and the same page came up. I have never been to
that site from the redhat server so client side cache can be ruled out. I
have just downloaded lynx and installed it on a second Solaris 8 system that
I have at home and it has also found the site. I have never browsed from
this system, so the site should defiantly not be cached.

Seems to be on the server side.

Regards
Chad


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:xeon@xshellr8.com]
Sent: 15 June 2004 04:00
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Strange copy of index.htm that is not in the
DocumentRoot on Apache/1.3.27


This sounds like just a cache issue with the browser you might be using.

Usually it's just the browser that caches like this but, I could be wrong.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Chad Jackson [LJNet Consultants] [mailto:chadj@ljnetconsultants.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 5:49 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: [users@httpd] Strange copy of index.htm that is not in the
DocumentRoot on Apache/1.3.27

Hello.

I have been running Apache on a Solaris 8 Server for over two years now and
have just found a problem that has me stumped. I am evaluating a web
publishing tool that allows me to post directly to the server, however the
index.htm page seemed to stay the same, if I call it directly.

If I use the url http://site.com the index.htm works and shows the correct
info as I have updated. But if I use http://site.com/index.htm the page is
about two days old with none of my latest changes visible. The strange thing
is that I have now deleted the site completely from the server's
DocumentRoot directory, and restarted apache, and have cleared the cache on
the local browser http://site.com/index.htm is still available even from a
browser on a separate system that has never been to that site before. I have
tried this from three systems with the same results the index.htm is still
available, and understandably the images do not load as the site has been
deleted.

Is there some configuration option that I am missing that caches the pages
even after the server is reloaded.

Regards
Chad




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