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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:37:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: ray v <rayv5n@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Can you create multiple responses for a single
 client reqest through Proxy?

Great stuff Nick!

Thank you!

.... I just have one more question about your 
response :?


[ So, to that end. Is it true that for every http
 request made by a client a response must be made?
 
 Basically, yes.  Though that can be flexible if both
 parties to a connection agree.]

I control the server and I can control the client. I
can't touch the proxy server at a customers site. Am I
screwed with reqard to your comment above?


--- Nick Kew <nick@webthing.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, ray v wrote:
> 
> > My apologies on the mix of questions.
> 
> OK, I'll have a stab at this.
> 
> > I would like to write a module for Apache that
> sets up
> > communications with a client in such a way that...
> >
> > When the client sends a request the server
> response by
> > sending several response-messages with status
> codes
> > and doesn't care if the client sends anymore
> requests.
> 
> HTTP specifies one request <---> one response.  But
> that's not the
> whole story.
> 
> The simplest way to accomplish what you want might
> be to package
> your response-messages as a multipart MIME document.
>  That's
> the same principle as an email message with
> attachments.
> 
> Otherwise, you can pack several requests and
> responses on a
> single connection with Keep-Alive, provided both the
> Client
> and server agree.  That's common behaviour; for
> example in
> cases where a browser uses a single connection to
> fetch an
> HTML page together with a stylesheet, a script, and
> some images
> required to display the page.
> 
> If both the client and server agree, you can also
> upgrade a
> connection from HTTP to a protocol of your choice.
> 
> > The idea is that if we have a presistant
> connection to
> > the Apache server can we continually send status
> > messages in the form of standard http response
> > messages.
> 
> That sounds a little like Netscape's (old) server
> push.
> Implementing it in Apache would be straightforward,
> but you'd
> need your users to be running a supporting Client
> application.
> A JAVA applet would be an option, with the usual
> caveats of course.
> 
> > The second half of the question is my attempt at
> > understand that if my first question were possible
> > what will happen through mod_proxy?
> 
> Then whatever you do has to be supported in three
> rather than just
> two places.  But you'd probably be better off
> building a bit more
> into the proxy, and having it accept
> one-message-for-many-clients.
> 
> > There are a lot of things I don't quite understand
> > about the http 1.1 spec. I don't think I'm alone
> here,
> > but I want to establish a rule for my questions.
> >
> > So, to that end. Is it true that for every http
> > request made by a client a response must be made?
> 
> Basically, yes.  Though that can be flexible if both
> parties
> to a connection agree.
> 
> > If this is the rule and their are no exceptions, I
> > have no basis for what I'm trying to accomplish
> and I
> > can move on to other things. :)
> 
> Sorry, I'm not giving you an excuse not to do your
> work.
> 
> -- 
> Nick Kew
> 
> Nick's manifesto: http://www.htmlhelp.com/~nick/
> 
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