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From Michel Jouvin <jou...@lal.in2p3.fr>
Subject Re: [users@httpd] 2.0.48 : Multiviews not honoured
Date Mon, 03 Nov 2003 12:24:16 GMT
Another info : the answer from apache is not the same in the case of 
Firebird. Here it is and the file location is correct. One difference in 
request sent by Firebird and IE6 is in 'Accept:' line. In Netscape they are 
weighted and */* has the smallest weight. In IE6 they are not weighted.

GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: www.lal.in2p3.fr
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) 
Gecko/20031007 Firebird/0.7
Accept: 
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q
=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1
Accept-Language: fr,en;q=0.7,en-us;q=0.3
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive

HTTP/1.x 200 OK
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:49:53 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.48 (Unix) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.0.48 OpenSSL/0.9.7b PHP/4.3.2
Content-Location: index.html.fr
Vary: negotiate,accept,accept-language
TCN: choice
Last-Modified: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:37:17 GMT
Etag: "e7ef-3824-3c90900e49140"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 14372
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Language: fr

Michel

--On lundi 3 novembre 2003 13:18 +0100 Michel Jouvin <jouvin@lal.in2p3.fr> 
wrote:

> Thanks for the pointer to iehttpheaders. I installed it and ran IE6
> against Apache 2.0.47 and 2.0.48. I found the following diff.
>
> IE request is :
>
> GET / HTTP/1.1
> Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg,
> application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/vnd.ms-excel,
> application/msword, */*
> Accept-Language: fr
> Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
> User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR
> 1.0.3705)
> Host: www.lal.in2p3.fr
> Connection: Keep-Alive
>
>
> 2.0.47 response is :
>
> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 12:06:17 GMT
> Server: Apache/2.0.47 (Unix) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.0.47 OpenSSL/0.9.7b PHP/4.3.2
> Content-Location: index.html.fr
> Vary: negotiate,accept-language
> TCN: choice
> Last-Modified: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:37:17 GMT
> ETag: "e7ef-3824-3c90900e49140"
> Accept-Ranges: bytes
> Content-Length: 14372
> Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
> Connection: Keep-Alive
> Content-Type: text/html
> Content-Language: fr
>
>
> 2.0.48 response is :
>
> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 12:01:35 GMT
> Server: Apache/2.0.48 (Unix) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.0.48 OpenSSL/0.9.7b PHP/4.3.2
> Content-Location: index.html.fr.svg
> Vary: negotiate,accept,accept-language
> TCN: choice
> Last-Modified: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:56:19 GMT
> ETag: "17f0a-3620-3c6e948ab56c0"
> Accept-Ranges: bytes
> Content-Length: 13856
> Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
> Connection: Keep-Alive
> Content-Type: image/svg+xml
> Content-Language: fr
>
>
> Thus, there are 2 differences :
>
> - Vary contains 'acceept' token in 2.0.48 which is not present in
> previous versions
>
> - Content locacation returns a file that exists but is normally ignored
> by previous versions.
>
> Thus why the file with ext .fr.svg is taken into account in 2.0.48 ?
>
>
> Michel
>
>
>
> --On lundi 3 novembre 2003 06:26 -0500 hunter <theantigod@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 06:09, Robert Andersson wrote:
>>> Michel Jouvin wrote:
>>> > I downloaded Firebird and discovered this new browser. Looks very
>>> > promising...
>>>
>>> It beats IE all day if you're stuck on a Windows machine.
>>>
>>> > With Firebird, I cannot reproduce the problem. It seems browser
>>> > dependent.
>>>
>>> I have not followed the thread closely, but what seems to be necessary
>>> is to get the headers from/to eg. IE and both Apache 2.0.47 and 2.0.48
>>> to compare, and see what is different.
>>>
>>> I wish I could point to a good tool to do this, but I have been unable
>>> to find one myself. The best I can offer is Ethereal
>>> (http://www.ethereal.com/). Then you would capture when making the
>>> request and receiving the response, save the captured data (and edit out
>>> everything except the request/response headers). A tip is to remove
>>> images etc. from the requested document first, to keep the capture
>>> somewhat clean. Do this for both Apache 2.0.47 and 2.0.48. Comparing the
>>> two should reveal the problem.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Robert Andersson
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> I have used this tool with IE to see headers ... it install into the
>> browser.
>>
>> http://www.blunck.info/iehttpheaders.html
>>
>> Chris Lewis
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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     * Michel Jouvin                 Email : jouvin@lal.in2p3.fr *
     * LAL / CNRS                    Tel : +33 1 64468932        *
     * B.P. 34                       Fax : +33 1 69079404        *
     * 91898 Orsay Cedex                                         *
     * France                                                    *
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