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From: "Leif W" <warp-9.9@usa.net>
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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:34:25 -0400
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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Proper order to install

This is getting off-topic...

Source is source, plain-text.  Binary is binary data.  If you ever
programmed, it's easy to understand.  Source is plaint text that is entered
in specific programming languages.  Apache and MySQL and PHP use C as the
language, hence the use of the C compiler gcc, the GNU C Compiler.  Go read
about C programming for examples, or just download the source and look at
the files ( less *.[ch] ).  Binaries are machine-code ( less -f *.o ).  The
source code has to be compiled, i.e. turned into machine code that a
computer can understand.  Machine code is usually dependent on the type of
CPU (i.e. can't run a binary compiled on an Alpha CPU on an x86 CPU
architecture) and operating system (if you have two x86 CPUs, you can't run
the same binary on FreeBSD and Linux).  There's also the issue of library
files (archives of commonly used binary code), so you sometimes can't run a
binary on two versions of Linux even if both run on x86 PCs, if one version
has it's library files in a different location that another version (Debian
vs. Redhat, for instance).

Hope this helps.

Leif

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M.D. DeWar" <mark@s-wit.net>
To: <users@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Proper order to install


> Hello,
> Thanks. Just a clarification.
> When you see the downloads that say
> Binaries
> Source
> what is the difference between the two ?
> and what is precompile binary. ?
> I normally go to the site (apache.org or mysql.com etc) and download from
> there.
> Thanks
> Mark
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leif W" <warp-9.9@usa.net>
> To: <users@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Proper order to install
>
>
> >
> > I'd think that if it's a FreeBSD BINARY, it won't work on Linux, as they
> are
> > two completely different operating systems.  If it's SOURCE, then those
> > programs should COMPILE ok on either OS.  A note about installing
> 3rd-party
> > pre-compiled binaries: you never know if their server has been
compromised
> > and if there are trojans or backdoors added to their binaries.  It's
> usually
> > best to get the source directly from the main site (or a mirror), and
> check
> > it's MD5 hash (which can also be faked but it's difficult), or better,
the
> > PGP (or GPG) signature, to verify that it's a clean unmodified source
> code.
> > So it's good practice to spend the time to learn to do source installs,
> for
> > many reasons.  It's usually quite simple once you get the hang of it.
> Just
> > remember to keep notes on what works for you, so you can repeat it
later.
> >
> > Leif
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jason (Spaz)" <HaxCode4u@comcast.net>
> > To: <users@httpd.apache.org>
> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:54 AM
> > Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Proper order to install
> >
> >
> > >
> > > That is a good question, unfortunately I am not able to answer only
> > because
> > > I have very little knowledge of FreeBSD.  I would personally assume
that
> > > since FreeBSD is based on Linux/Unix then the Linux distro would work?
> > but
> > > I REALLY DO NOT KNOW.
> > >
> > > Perhaps someone else on the board will let you know.
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: M.D. DeWar [mailto:mark@s-wit.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 09:50
> > > To: users@httpd.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Proper order to install
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks. This looks like a great site for a newbie like me.
> > >
> > > I use Freebsd. So when it says linux does it still apply ?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jason (Spaz)" <HaxCode4u@comcast.net>
> > > To: <users@httpd.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:33 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Proper order to install
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.devside.net/
> > > >
> > > > Hey, try the above website for various combined distributions.  They
> > have
> > > > both Linux and Win32 available.
> > > >
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: M.D. DeWar [mailto:mark@s-wit.net]
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 09:17
> > > > To: users@httpd.apache.org; mikobuck@yahoo.de
> > > > Subject: [users@httpd] Proper order to install
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > is there a proper order to install
> > > > apache
> > > > php
> > > > mysql
> > > > and any other software to help run/monitor these ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > mark
> > > >
> > >
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