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From "KAN NAN" <kannan_...@hotmail.com>
Subject Re: [users@httpd] Request !
Date Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:49:31 GMT
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<P>Dear Friends,</P>
<P>I accept the points mentioned by Mr.Brian given below.<BR>Is there any way
to add servlet filters in Apache Server. If it is possible how do I map the Filter and a servlet,
I mean where shall I write these discriptors (like in most appserver we write web.xml). Is
is possible for me to check for the contents posted using http request at the filter level.</P>
<P>Iam using apache 1.3, does this supports such Filter mappings or do I need to go
for latest Apache.<BR><BR>waiting for your replies....<BR>-Kannan</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Brian Dessent <BRIAN@DESSENT.NET>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: users@httpd.apache.org 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: users@httpd.apache.org 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Request ! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 17:04:35 -0700 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;KAN NAN wrote: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Dear friends, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I accept the points given by Mr. Garriss and Mr.
Geoffrey. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; See, these are the log entries from Apache. It is
really very 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; difficult to identify what they were trying to do.
The reason why I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; was quite sure that they were using telnet is, previously
our system 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; suffered, at that time I could see that these people
were using 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; CONNECT maila.microsoft.com:25....., so in my apache
config file, I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; blocked all kind of CONNECT request. So, it solved
me. But this time, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; just have a look at the log entries: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 211.147.1.82 - - [02/Sep/2003:08:59:31 +0100] "GET
/ HTTP/1.1" 400 380 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 211.147.1.82 - - [02/Sep/2003:08:59:43 +0100] "POST
/ HTTP/1.1" 500 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 604 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;First of all, please understand that a connection is a connection
-- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;they all look the same to Apache. The program servicing requests
on 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;that port (Apache) has no -inherent- way to determine whether
an 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;incoming connection is from someone using Telnet, wget, curl,
a perl 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;module such as LWP::Simple, a browser such as Internet Explorer,
or any 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;other of a large number of programs out there. The only thing
that 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Apache has to go by is what the other end transmitts, there's
no way to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;close off a port from one program and not another. Yes, you
can look at 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the User-Agent field but that's hardly authoritative, and by
that point 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the request has already been sent, i.e. it's not a form of
blocking. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Second, if you put a server on the public internet you should
expect to 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;get some bad queries, it's just how the world works. Most of
the time, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the are from other infected machines (such as Code Red and
Nimda) but 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;they can also be from random people telnetting into port 80
and typing 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;whatever they want. However, Apache (and any other web server)
has been 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;specifically designed with this in mind, and bad queries should
not 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;affect operation in the least. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;The above log entries are invalid queries most likely because
they did 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;not include the "Host:" header that HTTP 1.1 requires. They
would not 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;have affected operation of your server in the least, as the
server 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;simply sends an error message and continues along with its
duties. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;There are only three circumstances where I could imagine that
bad or 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;malformed requests would be a serious issue: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;1. If you are running a particularly old version of Apache
that has a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;vulnerability and someone is using it. If this is the case
you should 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;upgrade to a recent version. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;2. The person on the other end is swamping you with millions
of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;requests. IN this case you should block that IP address or
subnet in 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the firewall or gateway router. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;3. There's some new vulnerability not yet known to the Apache
developers 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;and security research community. This is highly unlikely, and
if it 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;turned out to be the case there would most likely be a great
deal of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;noise being made about it by someone... i.e. it's not the kind
of thing 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;you just stumble upon. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Now you said that these bad queries are affecting your operation

<DIV></DIV>&gt;somehow. The real question is, "How is that exactly?" If you
mean that 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;you're losing sleep over a few bad connections in a log file,
then you 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;just need to relax (assuming your system is up to date of course.)
If 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;there's any sort of measurable performance impact from the
occasional 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;bad request, then either something is configured wrong, or
these queries 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;are more than infrequent and the source should be blocked.

<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Brian 
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