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From "Leif W" <warp-...@usa.net>
Subject Re: [users@httpd] OT: Apache has FrontPage Server Installation
Date Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:24:02 GMT
Some people are so brainwashed and dependent, they don't want to be "saved".
Forget them.  Let them be.  Concentrate on yourself and those around you.
Make your own skills better so by living the example you can prove them
wrong or yourself better if that is your aim.  Help those who want it, not
those who don't care.

Another $0.05

Leif

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gold, Samuel (Contractor)" <GoldS@ncr.disa.mil>
To: <users@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache has FrontPage Server Installation


> I would have to totally agree with Jonas.  In my experience FP has
> totally hosed pages we have done in Dreamweaver.  It not only changes
> the look and feel of the page, but it adds hooks that are not compatible
> with other HTML editors.  If I had my choice I would choose Dreamweaver
> over FP any day.  Personally I think Dreamweaver is more enjoyable to
> use and just as easy to understand as FP.   For a beginner, I think
> Dreamweaver is a better choice because it does not add a bunch of crap.
> You can look at the code because it is much closer to standards than FP
> and learn something.
> Just my 2ยข
>
>
> Thanks,
> Sam Gold
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonas Eckerman [mailto:jonas_lists@frukt.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:47 AM
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache has FrontPage Server Installation
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:58:40 -0500, Jack L. Stone wrote:
>
> > countries with 60,000 readers. Without FP we would have to add more
> > people to do the same enourmous amount of work for the layout of
> > text and graphics.
>
> This is quite a bit off topic, but your making me curious. What is it
> that would need so much more if you used another similar tool, like
> DreamWeaver for example, instead of FrontPage?
>
> (Of course I realize it could mean a lot of work to change now, but you
> did check the competition before deciding FrontPage is the only tool
> that can handle the job, right?)
>
> This is somewhat releveant here. In my expereience there are tools other
> thamn FrontPage that offers the same advantages but less of the
> drawbacks. DreamWeaver is one. It has a WYSIWYG editor but also a code
> view and IIRC it lets you author with more common dynamic stuff (PHP,
> standard CGI etc) instead of proprietary solutions. A tool with the same
> editing/building philosophy as FrontPage but based on common standards
> would be easier to use with Apache as the chosen server.
>
> Regards
> /Jonas
> --
> Jonas Eckerman, jonas_lists@frukt.org
> http://www.fsdb.org/
>
>
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