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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 15:04:12 -0500
From: dav.hamilton@comcast.net
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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Unable to start Apache 2.0.45 without internet
 connection

Thomas,
Thanks for your reply.  Here is what I get from route print:

C:\WINDOWS\Desktop>route print
Active Routes:
Network Address          Netmask      Gateway Address        Interface
Metric
0.0.0.0                                0.0.0.0          10.1.1.1
10.10.1.6       1
10.0.0.0                          255.0.0.0        10.10.1.6
10.10.1.6       1
10.10.1.6            255.255.255.255        127.0.0.1              127.0.0.1
1
10.255.255.255  255.255.255.255        10.10.1.6              10.10.1.6
1
127.0.0.0                        255.0.0.0        127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1       1
224.0.0.0                        224.0.0.0        10.10.1.6
10.10.1.6       1
255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255      10.10.1.6              10.10.1.6
1

I only use Ethernet connections, so I don't have the dial-up networking even
installed on any of my machines.
I also made sure that Apache 1.3.27 was not running at the time, and
retested with the same results.
However, when I start Apache 1.3.27 up, it works correctly every time
without an internet connection, which is the strangest part.

Does anyone else running Windows 98 get a similar problem if they start up
Windows 98 without an internet connection and try starting Apache 2.0.45?
I've just switched back to working with Apache 1.3.27, but I had really been
hoping to use Apache 2.0.45.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Strike" <striket@pacbell.net>
To: <users@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Unable to start Apache 2.0.45 without internet
connection


> Here is my train of thaught that may help in troubleshooting your problem.
>
> From: <dav.hamilton@comcast.net>
>
> > With Apache 2.0.45 for Windows 98, if I try to use Apache without an
> > internet connection, I receive the following message and Apache fails to
> > start:
> > no listening sockets available, shutting down
> > Unable to open logs
>
> Take this error message litterally.
> Apache2 can't find any available routes to bind to on port 80.
>
> > This is with the settings:
> > #Listen 80 - Listen disabled
> > ServerName localhost
>
> I believe that without the listen statement set in the config file,
> the default is that Apache listens to all available IP connections on port
> 80.
> The same as "Listen 80"
>
> > If I try ServerName localhost:80 it gives the same result, and if I try
> > Listen 80, or Listen localhost:80, or Listen 127.0.0.1:80, I receive the
> > following error and Apache fails to start:
> > [Fri May 16 06:21:48 2003] [crit] (OS 10038)Socket operation on
> non-socket:
> > make_sock: for address 127.0.0.1:80, apr_socket_opt_set: (SO_KEEPALIVE)
no
> > listening sockets available, shutting down
> > Unable to open logs
>
> SEE BELOW
>
> > With Apache 2.0, can you use it without an internet connection?
> > I've searched the web, the manual, all of the suggested bugtraq
searches,
> > but I'm still not able to figure out what I'm doing wrong
> > and can't find anyone else who has mentioned this problem.
>
> Apache2 seems not to be able to find an available port 80 on any
> active IP addresses that is specified in the config file.  Therefore.
> I would turn to the Networking configuration in Win98.  It may be
> that Network routes in Win98 are not present when there are
> no active network devices on line.  But then, Why can you ping
> the localhost and Apache2 can't find it: Unless you happened to
> be connected through Dialup Networking at the time.
>
> First, I would try "route print" in a DOS window to see if in fact the
> localhost route is present in your machine while you are off line.
>
> Network Address     Network      Gateway     Interface    Metric
>              127.0.0.0   255.0.0.0     127.0.0.1   127.0.0.1            1
>
> The other probability is that some program in your system has
> already glombed onto port 80 on your LocalHost address such
> as your last install of Apache still being active.
>
> Cheers,
> Tom S.
> http://www.SleepyValley.net/me
>
>
>
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