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Thread-Topic: [users@httpd] DNS Resolution
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From: "Mark-Nathaniel Weisman" <mark@outlander.us>
To: <users@httpd.apache.org>
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Subject: RE: [users@httpd] DNS Resolution

Michael,
  The idea here is that somewhere, on some machine, preferrably the
registrant would be supplied with the IP Address that was assigned to
you. In other words:

>>@	SOA	IN	mydomain.com.root.mydomain.com) <<identifies the
domain via Apache>>
>>			200212141;				<<Tells
when last changes were made>>
>>			84500;				<<I get these
all messed up>>
>>			14400;				<<One is how
long to live, another tells
>>			3600;					<<how
long to keep trying, and my mind is
>>			84500; )				<<dead
as to the last one>>
>>@		NS	registrant.domain.net.		<<This allows
for reverse DNS>>
>>@		NS	silly.other.dns.			<<So
people know who you are>>
>>@		MX	10 mail.mydomain.net.		<<Primary mail
server>>
>>@		MX	10 silly.mydomain.net.		<<Secondary mail
server location>>

>>mydomain.net	A	111.222.333.444.		<<Tying IP
Address to domain name>>
>>www			CNAME	mydomain.net.		<<www to the
same address>>
>>ftp			CNAME mydomain.net.		<<ftp to the
same address>>
>>mail		A	111.222.333.443.		<<mail request
to a separate server>>

This is a DNS record on a DNS server. Notice that it ties the IP address
to the domain name. To have things resolve, you must have a DNS A record
on a DNS server somewhere. I think if you give are going to run DNS
services, now would be a good time, otherwise you'll need to find a DNS
server to tie these two together.=20
	www.granitecanyon.com
Or I would be happy to enter your numbers, then you point the registrant
to that DNS server and you'll be rocking.

His Faithful Servant,
Mark-Nathaniel Weisman
President / CEO
Infinite Visions Educational Systems Inc.
Anchorage, Alaska
http://www.ivedsys.com
weismanm@ivedsys.com
=20


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Klama [mailto:nosedive@tampabay.rr.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 11:21 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] DNS Resolution


The registrar gave me the names of 2 DNS servers to park the domain
name.  the domain name lets say is www.mydomain.com - you are saying
that when joe types that into his browser that the request goes to the
top level domain servers for .com and they determine which dns server to
go to based on the domain name "mydomain" which should be the addresses
that the registrar gave me.  The registrar's dns server should at that
point resolve the name to the static ip of my web server...correct?  if
that is the case then how does the registrar's dns server know the
static ip address that was assigned to me by a completely different
company

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark-Nathaniel Weisman [mailto:mark@outlander.us]=20
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 2:58 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] DNS Resolution

Alrighty then.... Let's take this a step at a time. You're going to need
two DNS servers to register the domain name at a registrar. Let's look
at how the DNS resolves maybe that will help with the confusion. When
someone types in your domain name www.imsmart.com, the request is then
initially interpreted by the root domains which look at the registered
DNS servers at the registrar. These in turn disclose and point to the
static IP address for the exact web server which contains where it is
parked. An example is in order:

www.imsmart.com has a DNS Server of 111.222.333.444. 111.222.333.444 is
then queried to get that: www.imsmart.com is at 24.234.27.15

Your static IPAddress at 24.234.17.15 is then queried to find Apache
webserver running which then says that www.imsmart.com is in
/usr/local/www/data/imsmart on that server.

Did this make any sense? Most registrants will require that you have two
DNS servers, and each of those DNS servers need to point that domain
name to your IP address. Any more clear?

His Faithful Servant,
Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Klama [mailto:nosedive@tampabay.rr.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 9:43 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] DNS Resolution


I am a little confused as to which dns server I am to use in different
areas.  When I run the network configuration it asks me to put in my
static IP address and the dns servers addresses.  The company that I
received my ip address from gave me the ip addresses for their dns
servers.  The company that I registered by domain name with gave me
names for the dns servers where my domain name is parked.  I do not know
which of these dns addresses I am supposed to use for the network
configuration and which I am supposed to use for dns configuration in
bind and which I am to use for the apache server. At this point all I
want to do is be able to resolve my FQDN so that when I sit down at my
other computer and open a browser I can type in the FQDN and have it
open the test page that comes with apache.  I used to be able to set the
resolve order through linuxconfig but I am using 7.3 now and don't know
where to set the resolve order now either.  Can anyone relieve me of my
stupidity?  Thanks in advance

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark-Nathaniel Weisman [mailto:mark@outlander.us]=20
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 12:47 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] DNS Resolution

Have you edited your HOST file located in /etc? This is where the
original hostname is located. Then check the order of your resolution,
is it HOSTs then BIND, or the other way around, this would tell you
pretty quickly where you need to add the domain name.

His Faithful Servant,
Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Klama [mailto:nosedive@tampabay.rr.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 7:08 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: [users@httpd] DNS Resolution


Hello
I am hoping that someone can help me with name resolution.  I have a
FQDN mysite.com and I have a static IP for my machine.  Each time I run
domainname -d or dnsdomainname I get the error Host Name Lookup Failure.
Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

Mike





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