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From: Justin Williams <justin@naturalwebs.com>
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 07:30:09 +0000
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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Beginner How-To

Most commonly, you will need a separate static IP for each domain you want to 
put an SSL on.  So, if you have 20 domains with no SSL and one domain with 
it, then you'll need 2 static IPs.  One can handle all of the domains with no 
SSL of their own; the other can handle the one domain with its SSL.

On Thursday 05 December 2002 12:20 pm, Michael Klama wrote:
> I do have one other question for now.  At what point do I need more than
> one static IP address?
>
> MIke
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Williams [mailto:justin@naturalwebs.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:22 PM
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Beginner How-To
>
> Here's the scoop on DNS, in a very small nutshell:
>
> Remember old television?  The Adams Family?  Remember their address?
> Bear
> with me here..  this is old stuff...  They lived at 1313 Mockingbird
> Lane.
> So, keep that relationship in mind: Adams Family's House = 1313
> Mockingbird
> Lane.  Now Gomez and Thing most assuredly did not share teh same
> residence in
> that house, right?  Thing crashed in a cigar box...
>
> So, Consider Lurch to be your web server, Apache.  Apache keeps track of
> where
> Gomez and Thing both live.  Seperate rooms.  If a visitor comes to the
> house
> to visit Gomez, Lurch took the visitor to the library, or torture room,
> or
> wherever Gomez was.  If that visitor wanted to see Thing, Lurch too them
> to
> smoke a cigar...
>
> With me so far?
>
> So Lurch = Apache
> Gomez = Web 1.
> Thing = Web 2.
> 1313 Mockingbird Lane = IP Address of both websites.
>
> Now, think about small towns in America.  Almost invariably, there is
> one old
> busybody who knows everything about everybody.  That busybody is the
> DNS.  A
> visitor to the town asks that busybody where Gomez Adams lives, and gets
>
> pointed to 1313 Mockingbird Lane.
>
> Likewise, a packet on the net looking for web 1, gets pointed by the DNS
> to
> the IP address.
> Apache (Lurch) resides on that IP address, as well, and, when that
> packet
> arrives looking for Gomez, Lurch (Apache) takes him to the right room
> (the
> directory where Web 1 is housed).
>
> For the record, yes, this is exactly how I describe the process in my
> Web
> Design and Management class...  ;-)
>
> On Thursday 05 December 2002 01:13 am, Michael Klama wrote:
> > This server will be in house and I plan on getting a static IP but was
> > unsure if it was necessary.  Ideally I plan on having a web hosting
> > service that I run and am in the process of changing the 4 sites I
> > currently have under contract from a hosting service to my own server.
> > I have not had to think about all of the necessary components
> > previously.  For the time being I can use the same Linux server for
>
> DNS
>
> > and for the web server but once it is set up I will start advertising
>
> it
>
> > and hopefully will soon need more equipment to cover both DNS and
> > hosting.  My question after being so long winded is about the IP
>
> address
>
> > of the machine.  I assume (and correct me if I am wrong) that I need a
> > static IP for the DNS and the DNS will then distribute incoming
>
> requests
>
> > to the proper location.  Lets say that Machine1 is also DNS1 and WEB1
> > then Machine1 has IP xxx.xxx.xxx and a request comes in for site
>
> number
>
> > 3 on the server then the DNS will point the request to site number 3
>
> and
>
> > with each request for a different site the DNS will point the request
>
> in
>
> > the correct place?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin Williams [mailto:justin@naturalwebs.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:49 AM
> > To: users@httpd.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Beginner How-To
> >
> > OK.
> > Presumably, then, this is a server which will have its own IP.  Is
>
> this
>
> > server
> > to be co-located, or hosted in-house?
> > If co-located, then the facility should have a DNS server to point
> > domain
> > names to your machine.  If they don't, or if you are hosting in-house,
> > then
> > you will need a DNS of your own.  This can be a separate machine, or
>
> it
>
> > can
> > be the same one.  Not a big issue, there.  The ISP I work for has 2
>
> DNSs
>
> > of
> > its own to handle the websites we host.  Either way, if you are going
>
> to
>
> > have
> > multiple websites on there, then you need to have access to update the
> > DNS
> > server on a regular basis.  Every time you add a domain, you need to
>
> be
>
> > able
> > to update...
> > If you are going to be serving up multiple sites to the world, then
>
> yes,
>
> > you
> > are going to need a static IP address.  It is possible to use dynamic,
> > but
> > that would *really* suck updating all of them every time your IP
> > changes...
> >
> > On Wednesday 04 December 2002 01:20 pm, Michael Klama wrote:
> > > This will be a production server hosting multiple sites out to the
> >
> > rest
> >
> > > of the world.
> > > Mike
> > >
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Justin Williams [mailto:justin@naturalwebs.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:11 AM
> > > To: users@httpd.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Beginner How-To
> > >
> > > Hi Michael
> > > I recently set up my first server for an ISP that has always been a
> > > Windows
> > > shop.  As the resident penguin-herder, there, I got my shoulder
>
> tapped
>
> > > when
> > > they decided they wanted to give it a try.
> > >
> > > Most of your questions will be better answered if you can answer
>
> this
>
> > > one,
> > > though: What are you setting up the server for?  I.e. are you
>
> setting
>
> > up
> >
> > > a
> > > production server to send out pages to the rest of the world, or are
> >
> > you
> >
> > > setting up a testing server, that you only want visible to you on
>
> your
>
> > > local
> > > network?
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 04 December 2002 01:00 pm, Michael Klama wrote:
> > > > Hello
> > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction to find a beginners
> >
> > How-To
> >
> > > on
> > >
> > > > setting up the Apache web server?  I need the basic info on how to
> >
> > set
> >
> > > > up the network coming into the web server, ie., Do I need a static
> >
> > IP,
> >
> > > > Do I need to set up my own DNS Server, Do I need to purchase a
>
> FQDN
>
> > > and
> > >
> > > > if so who can I purchase it from without using their hosting
> >
> > service?
> >
> > > > Currently I have high speed cable going to a linksys router which
> > > > assigns IP addresses to all of my systems.  Will I still be able
>
> to
>
> > > use
> > >
> > > > this setup?
> > > > As you can see I have a lot of basic questions I need answered
> >
> > before
> >
> > > I
> > >
> > > > can start serving web pages to the internet.  Any advise would be
> > > > greatly appreciated
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> >
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