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From: "Jay Turberville" <jay@studio522.com>
To: <users@httpd.apache.org>
References: <scc3fa00.071@snoopy.ci.stpaul.mn.us>
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Subject: Re: NT Server
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:53:42 -0700
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>From a licensing standpoint, no.  You must use a "server" version of the OS.
Read the EULA.txt on your operating system CD-ROM.

>From a technical standpoint, I'm pretty sure you can do it.  Considering
that a typical page request often opens many connections, I think the howls
of complaints would be legendary if there were a real limit of 10
connections.

Jay Turberville

> ""You'll probably want a 2000 Server license.  The workstation license
> > limits the number of incoming socket connections (I believe the limit is
> > 10),""
>
> Nope, Apache isnt affected by this IIS limitation.
>
> :)
>
> If he DOES use IIS, he's nuts. Lotsa probs with weekly updates etc.
> Apache for windows keeps the cost down and you can install Frontpage
> Extentions
>  (the only reason I can think of that folks would ask for an NT machine)
> with minimal fuss.
> I havent personally installed FPE on mine, but I intend to soon. The
> questions he asks will probably
> help alot of us when he starts up.
>
> ::waves::
>
> BTW all, got that CGI thing runnin. Changed the cgi-bin dir to
> "webdir"/cgi-bin and it works fine.
> Moved it from the apache/cgi-bin/ dir.
>
> :)
>
>
>
> ====================================
> "It is said that if you line up all the cars in the
> world end to end, someone would be stupid
> enough to try and pass them."
> ====================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Nelson" <pete.nelson@ci.stpaul.mn.us>
> To: <users@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:54 AM
> Subject: Re: NT Server
>
>
> > I've never used a Windows/Apache server in a production environment,
> > only for testing and educating.  From my experience, Windows has too
> > many memory leaks and security vunerabilities to use as a public server
> > (we use linux).  However, here are a few suggestions -
> >
> > 1. You'll probably want a 2000 Server license.  The workstation license
> > limits the number of incoming socket connections (I believe the limit is
> > 10), so for a production web server, you'll need 2000 Server license.
> > Likewise, if your users a currently using FTP to upload files, you may
> > need to buy licenses for additional named users.
> >
> > 2. For remote administration - well, this is (IMHO) a downside to
> > Windows - you need a GUI to do most tasks.  You could try a VNC server -
> > http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ - but VNC through windows allows
> > only one desktop at a time, so if you need multiple administrators,
> > you'll have to be careful you don't have multiple people working on it
> > via VNC at the same time (you'll fight eachother for mouse & keyboard
> > control).  You could also consider purchasing Microsoft's Terminal
> > Server, which does allow multiple people access to the GUI.
> >
> > 3. Be prepared to reboot a lot more often!  And if you find the
> > server's hanging, check to see that there isn't a dialog box waiting to
> > be dismissed on the GUI (this has tripped up our internal web server
> > numerous times).
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Pete Nelson, Web Developer
> > <pete.nelson@ci.stpaul.mn.us>
> > http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/
> >
> > >>> soheils@jhanna.com 04/22/02 11:12AM >>>
> > Hello everyone.
> > I have a question, that might be a bit off the topic, so please forgive
> > me.
> > I have been running Linux, and FreeBSD servers for my hosting company,
> > and
> > recently noticed that a lot of the people who get referred to me, are
> > asking
> > for NT servers.
> >
> > I am pretty familiar with the NT intranet servers, but have never made
> > a web
> > server using one.
> > So, here are the questions I have:
> > 1. Do I actually need to have an NT machine, or a Win2000 Server to
> > setup a
> > web server, or can I just use a Win2000 software to do this?
> >
> > 2. Is it fairly simple to operate a Windows server remotely?
> >
> > 3. Can anyone give me some quick pointers to get me started on this
> > please?
> >
> > I am looking for an inexpensive solution, if possible.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Soheil
> >


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