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From "Pete Nelson" <pete.nel...@ci.stpaul.mn.us>
Subject RE: NT Server
Date Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:57:10 GMT
Just to clarify - I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the Remote
Admin Terminal Services is ONLY for the Server license - I don't think
it comes with the workstation.  So he will still need to purchase Server
licensing to use Terminal Server.

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Pete Nelson, Web Developer
<pete.nelson@ci.stpaul.mn.us>
http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/

>>> jburns@jeffburns.org 04/29/02 08:45AM >>>
I hope this isn't too late to help, but just a small note on #2 -
Remoe
Administration.

While I agree that VNC is tight and works really well, you don't need
to
purchase Terminal Server licensing for Win2K if you intend to do just
remote admin.  2000 Terminal Services comes in two modes: Application
mode (need to purchase licensing) and Remote Admin mode (no licenses
required).  It allows 2 or 3 admins to be connected at any given time,
and does not require the purchase of additional licenses over the
already bloated cost of 2000 Server.

Thanx, jef

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Nelson [mailto:pete.nelson@ci.stpaul.mn.us] 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:54 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org 
Subject: Re: NT Server


I've never used a Windows/Apache server in a production environment,
only for testing and educating.  From my experience, Windows has too
many memory leaks and security vunerabilities to use as a public
server
(we use linux).  However, here are a few suggestions -

1. You'll probably want a 2000 Server license.  The workstation
license
limits the number of incoming socket connections (I believe the limit
is
10), so for a production web server, you'll need 2000 Server license. 
Likewise, if your users a currently using FTP to upload files, you may
need to buy licenses for additional named users.

2. For remote administration - well, this is (IMHO) a downside to
Windows - you need a GUI to do most tasks.  You could try a VNC server
-
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ - but VNC through windows allows
only one desktop at a time, so if you need multiple administrators,
you'll have to be careful you don't have multiple people working on it
via VNC at the same time (you'll fight eachother for mouse & keyboard
control).  You could also consider purchasing Microsoft's Terminal
Server, which does allow multiple people access to the GUI.

3. Be prepared to reboot a lot more often!  And if you find the
server's
hanging, check to see that there isn't a dialog box waiting to be
dismissed on the GUI (this has tripped up our internal web server
numerous times).



--
Pete Nelson, Web Developer
<pete.nelson@ci.stpaul.mn.us>
http://www.ci.stpaul.mn.us/ 

>>> soheils@jhanna.com 04/22/02 11:12AM >>>
Hello everyone.
I have a question, that might be a bit off the topic, so please
forgive
me. I have been running Linux, and FreeBSD servers for my hosting
company, and recently noticed that a lot of the people who get
referred
to me, are asking for NT servers.

I am pretty familiar with the NT intranet servers, but have never made
a
web server using one. So, here are the questions I have: 1. Do I
actually need to have an NT machine, or a Win2000 Server to setup a
web
server, or can I just use a Win2000 software to do this?

2. Is it fairly simple to operate a Windows server remotely?

3. Can anyone give me some quick pointers to get me started on this
please?

I am looking for an inexpensive solution, if possible.



Sincerely,
Soheil


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