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From "Daniel G" <t...@ct5.com>
Subject RE: Router Recommendation? (Was Re: Apache behind a router?)
Date Thu, 28 Feb 2002 05:09:45 GMT
That is totally true... I got a friend running a lInux router on a 486
with 16MBs RAM :-) Gotta love Linux for that.... 

We go to computer shows out here every once and awhile, I haven't gone
to one yet where I cant pick up a stripped out Pentium box for like 50
Bucks... All you need is like 32 or 64 Megs a RAM... 

And with that setup you can always move to creating a LVS cluster, my
next project here at work... 

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Cipollone, Peter (Factiva) [mailto:Peter.Cipollone@factiva.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:18 PM
To: 'users@httpd.apache.org'
Subject: RE: Router Recommendation? (Was Re: Apache behind a router?)

Is the external link ethernet?  A Pentium 100 with two NICs, Linux and
iptables can NAT itself silly, in addition to other fw/route duties.


-----Original Message-----
From: Darrel Austin [mailto:daustin@visi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:13 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: Router Recommendation? (Was Re: Apache behind a router?)


Dan:

Yea, that's the theory ;o)

It's a good theory, but the problem is that you can only have 1 VIP 
address active with NAT. That means only 1 address can NAT through it 
to the inside.

So, I suppose my real question is, what's the cheapest router that 
can have multiple VIP address with NAT running (my ISP suggested the 
Cisco 806 (?) but that's $350...a bit too much for a hobby server.)

-Darrel




>Boy that sounds like a familiar config... At work we have two lines, a
>T1 coming into a Cisco 2620 and a SDSL coming into a Cisco 678 --
prolly
>very similar to your 675...
>
>Our DSL also gives us a block of 5 IPs. Though I have not done this,
and
>God knows our DSL tech support was of absolutely no help... And
>searching thru the Cisco help database was worse than wading through
the
>Perl Man Page...
>
>But, (theoretically) you should be able to assign a different static IP
>to another VIP interface. And then just use static addressing and port
>forwarding to point it to a different internal address on the same
>subnet... Any current mapping is done between eth0 and vip0 -- add a
NAT
>rule to map some addresses from eth0 to vip1... essentially...
>
>		(show interfaces)
>
>	eth0 *current internal IP subnet*
>	vip0 *current external IP*
>	vip1 *additional external IP*
>
>Theoretically it should work, though as I said I haven't had a need to
>try it yet...
>
>Tell me if it works to, or if you've tried it... I'd like to know if it
>works...lol...
>
>Dan
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Darrel Austin [mailto:daustin@visi.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:19 PM
>To: users@httpd.apache.org
>Subject: Router Recommendation? (Was Re: Apache behind a router?)
>
>Hey Dan:
>
>I don't want to take this thread too far off topic, but you appear to
>know
>about routers a bit.
>
>We're currently hosting two different web servers on our network, along
>with
>4-6 workstations, and a block of 5 IPs. We'd like to NAT everything,
>however, we can't NAT more than one IP address using our default Cisco
>675
>router (ie, we can't NAT 1.1.1.1 to one internal IP and 1.1.1.2 to a
>second
>internal IP), so we need to upgrade to a router/firewall that can.
>
>Can you recommend one? These are just hobby servers on a DSL line,
>nothing
>high-end...but I hate having all of these machines hooked up via
>external
>static IPs.
>
>Apologies for drifting off-topic...
>
>-Darrel
>
>
>
>
>on 2/27/02 2:08 PM, Daniel Giovannoni at tech@ct5.com wrote:
>
>>  Those linksys are not to configurable, kinda the fisher-price of
>>  routers...
>>
>>  If you have static IPs assigned to your domains, then you'll need to
>map
>>  those through the router. But, in order to do that I believe you
would
>>  have to turn off NAT -- maybe not completely but at least for those
>>  specific IPs (this is dependent on whether or not your router is
>>  configurable like that)
>>
>  > Otherwise, yeah like he said change your virtual host IPs to
>accommodate
>  > your internal IPs -- you will still have to create static IPs and
map
>  > port 80 to those IPs in the router configuration... But, LInksys
makes
>>  this easy enough...
>>
>>  Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Darrel Austin [mailto:daustin@visi.com]
>>  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:26 PM
>>  To: users@httpd.apache.org
>>  Subject: Re: Apache behind a router?
>>
>>  You'll need to set up your virtual hosts to accommodate the new
>internal
>>  IP
>>  addresses your router is serving the machines internally (unless you
>>  still
>>  have your server set up with a static IP and the router is just
>letting
>>  it
>>  pass through).
>>
>>  -Darrel
>>
>>  on 2/27/02 1:19 PM, Sterling Anderson at
sterling@sterlinganderson.net
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>  Not sure if this is an Apache question or a router question. My
Linux
>>>  server is running Debian and I installed Apache using Apt. I have 4
>>>  domains going to my machine and I set them up using Name-based
>Virtual
>>>  Hosts. Everything worked fine until I put the server behind my
>router.
>>>  The router is a linksys cheapo model. I have all traffic for port
80
>  >> going to the Apache server but it has stopped forwarding
correctly.
>>>  Does anyone know of any resources for changing my apache config or
>>>  updating my routing tables?
>>>
>>>  Thanks.
>>>
>>>  _________________________
>>>  Sterling Anderson
>>>
>>>
>>>
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