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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:40:06 -0800
From: Stas Bekman <stas@stason.org>
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Subject: Re: [Patch] Better IPv6 detection and configuration
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Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:13 -0800, Stas Bekman wrote:
> 
>>Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 17:03 -0800, Stas Bekman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>+                error "Socket6 not installed";
>>>>>+                error "Test might fail if your hostname: '$name' has an IPv6 address";
>>>>
>>>>not too clear what to do in case of a problem, and what consitutes a problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, guess the message is a bit too terse.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>something like this?
>>>>
>>>>  error << EOI;
>>>>Your system is configured to run both ipv6 and ipv4, but can't figure out 
>>>>which interface to use, trying to use ipv6. If the test suite doesn't start, 
>>>>please install the perl CPAN module 'Socket6' and re-run the last command.
>>>>EOI
>>>
>>>
>>>How about:
>>>
>>>"
>>>Your system is configured to run both ipv6 and ipv4, but can't figure
>>>out if the hostname 'name' is ipv4 only. If the test suite doesn't
>>>start, try specifying a servername that you know is only ipv4, or
>>
>>what action user is supposed to undertake when you say that? it should be 
>>really clear, or we will end up with a question onto the list.
> 
> 
> Well, what I am trying to say is that if the user goes

I understand what you are trying to say to me, but the user most likely won't. 
result: question to the list and we achieved nada.

> perl Makefile.PL -servername my.name.com
>  or 
> perl Makefile.PL -servername 127.0.0.1
> 
> His/Her problem will also go away.

and that's exactly what the error message should say. but how the user will 
know which name to use?

> installing Socket6 will not solve the problem, but just allow me to
> detect if a problem is certain to happen.

that's why I suggest to require Socket6, figure exactly what's going on and 
what user should do in case of ambiguety and based on the information that is 
accessible (.e.g resolve localhost and use the ip address, etc) the error 
message should explain what to do next.

> In any case, at that point, the user will need to specify an ipv4
> hostname/address.

most users don't know what is ipv4 hostname/address.

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