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From Sorin Manolache <>
Subject Re: Mutex protection of output bucket brigade
Date Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:59:46 GMT
On 2013-06-12 11:48, Alex Bligh wrote:
> On 12 Jun 2013, at 10:20, Sorin Manolache wrote:
>> If I understand correctly, the main thread belongs to your module, i.e. it is not
a concise pseudo-code of the request processing in apache's code.
> The main thread is the (presumably single) thread of the prefork mpm process, created
(I assume) by a fork() in apache's worker code.
> The pseudo code was what my long-running request handler does (after creating the other
thread). IE, broadly speaking my request handler (the main thread if you like) does this:
>   apr_thread_create; /* create the spawned thread */
>   while (!done)
>    {
>      /* Blocking read */
>      apr_brigade_create;
>      ap_get_brigade;
>      apr_brigade_flatten;
>      /* Do stuff with the data */
>      blocking_socket_write;
>    }
>   apr_thread_join; /* wait until the spawned thread has executed */
>> I don't see where the output brigade appears in the main thread. I think this is
critical, as the output_bucket_brigade is the data item shared between the two threads. ap_get_brigade
triggers the execution of the chain of input filters. One of these input filters writes to
the output brigade?
> ap_get_brigade is called with APR_BLOCK_READ.
> What I now /believe/ this does (because it's the only way data would actually get written)
is write the post processed output bucket brigade to the client too. If this were not the
case, it's difficult to see how a single threaded application would every write the output
bucket brigade.
> Or are you saying the output bucket brigade is only actually written to the client during
an ap_fwrite()? In which case are all the filters (primarily mod_ssl) guaranteed to be thread
safe if a different thread is doing input from that doing output?

"Normally" the output brigade is only written during the 
ap_rprintf/ap_fwrite and the like.

There is no output brigade when the request_rec structure is created. 
The way to write something to the client is via 
ap_pass_brigade(r->output_filter, brigade). Typically the function that 
calls ap_pass_brigade creates the brigade first. So you write something 
to the brigade and you pass it downstream. The last filter writes its 
contents to the network. Be aware that there are filters that buffer the 
brigades and do not send them further down the chain unless the buffers 
are full.

If you created a handler that would just return OK without ever calling 
an ap_rprintf/ap_fwrite, the module would create no output brigade and 
the client would get no response.

I think your hypothesis is unlikely. For it to hold, you'd need an input 
filter that is triggered when ap_get_brigade is called, that that input 
filter creates a brigade and stores it somewhere and that the spawned 
thread somehow writes to this stored brigade. So the ap_fwrite in the 
spawned thread would need to write to a brigade created in an input 
filter triggered by ap_get_brigade in the main thread.

To verify this hypothesis, check which is the brigade whose pointers are 
corrupted. I mean, where is it referenced, in which apache module, in 
which apache filter. Then you can inspect the sources of that module to 
see if the brigade is shared between input and output.


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