From modules-dev-return-123-apmail-httpd-modules-dev-archive=httpd.apache.org@httpd.apache.org Mon Nov 06 17:26:03 2006 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-modules-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 74783 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2006 17:26:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Nov 2006 17:26:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 65884 invoked by uid 500); 6 Nov 2006 17:26:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-modules-dev-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 65860 invoked by uid 500); 6 Nov 2006 17:26:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact modules-dev-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: modules-dev@httpd.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list modules-dev@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 65851 invoked by uid 99); 6 Nov 2006 17:26:12 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:26:12 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of mcqueenorama@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.173 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.173] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:25:58 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 75so910226ugb for ; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:25:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fAefX/MptsxYGON/jCKW3v8SI+pNaHekmJtRlBQmCDOmphhk4a+WZiHSgbd5CDP34dNeMlzldf9IDkj/uOrLYWvMrp8rEHqYve0A5tTJBQkeGoraa3v7hhHfnXV7/TvVoflCSab2LJVSRtXmRB6Re4cs7/lmFI0beiDg/nYyuNg= Received: by 10.67.99.1 with SMTP id b1mr7687097ugm.1162833936719; Mon, 06 Nov 2006 09:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.99.3 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:25:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5b3fa8f0611060925s5842da93r27c88a75b1ecc89@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 09:25:36 -0800 From: "Brian McQueen" To: modules-dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Who is Representing Apache? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I was at a conference for startups last week, and it would have been very useful to have someone there representing Apache. It is going to drop from the minds of its target audience if its utility is not made obvious again and again, obvious and up-to-date. There was a lot of talk about open source projects and how to use open source code and nobody but me mentioned Apache. It should be the textbook example of how to run a successful open source project, and it should be an example of great engineering and there should be cases made for how and why to use it, and the startups should hear about it. It was a missed opportunity. I raised the question about how many folks depend on it, and the room was full of hands, but NONE of them are developing within it, none are involved with it. Its just their web server. This awesome Apache thing you guys created is beginning to slide into obscurity, when its actually better now than ever and should be moving more steadily into the forefront. Its no mere web server! So who is responsible for this type of activity? Brian McQueen