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From Lucien GENTIS <lucien.gen...@univ-lorraine.fr>
Subject Re: HTML entities
Date Mon, 15 Jun 2015 07:45:16 GMT
Le 14/06/2015 17:53, Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen a écrit :
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> On 14. juni 2015 02:11, Yann Ylavic wrote:
>> Hi Lucien,
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Lucien Gentis
>> <lucien.gentis@univ-lorraine.fr> wrote:
>>> Since we use Unicode in XML files, do we still need to replace
>>> accentuated characters like é or è by HTML entities ?
>> Not doing so would require each committer to take care of having
>> her/his system's locale or editor configured in UTF8. I'm not
>> saying I'm against the idea, it would certainly ease writing docs
>> in non-english language, but just want to be clear about this (if
>> I'm not mistaken).
> Would it be my little patch in [1] that spurred this question?
>
> Having written the patch I'm sure you understand my position on the
> issue. Just saying that which ever way this is decided, it should be
> consistent. The current state is everything but.
>
> There are 3 benefits to doing this as I see:
> * Easier reading
> * Easier writing
> * Fewer transfered bytes in eg. error pages (This is minimal I know,
> I'm sure someone would like to point out that this is negligible, and
> it probably is).
>
> In a well configured versioning system, there are mostly patches, and
> not whole rewrites of code/documentation. Any parts left alone would
> not be touched by most editors I know. So the diffs would only be for
> the parts unaffected by the non ASCII characters.
>
> Without any knowledge about the state of the different parts of the
> world, I would speculate that for non Latin-1 language users, there
> would be high pressure to convert to UTF, medium pressure for Latin-1
> language users (my group), and little pressure for pure ASCII users.
>
> Meaning that those who would edit those parts of the files would
> already be converted, and those not editing those parts of the files
> would not affect them.
>
> - -Tom Fredrik
>
> [1] https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57878
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As I understood it, this patch only affects error messages.

I actually talked about manual pages.

Currently, wether or not we replace accentuated characters by HTML 
entities in XML manual pages, they are displayed correctly in HTML pages 
(where encoding is converted in "western") ; so I thought there was no 
need anymore of using HTML entities.

-- 
Lucien GENTIS
UNIVERSITE DE LORRAINE - ESPE
Centre de Ressources Informatiques
5, Rue Paul Richard
C.O. 3 - MAXEVILLE
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Tél. 03 83 17 68 42
Email : lucien.gentis@univ-lorraine.fr


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