Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EAF511364 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 01:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 69190 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jun 2014 01:44:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 69038 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jun 2014 01:44:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact docs-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: docs@httpd.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list docs@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 69018 invoked by uid 99); 17 Jun 2014 01:44:11 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 01:44:11 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of mike.rumph@oracle.com designates 141.146.126.69 as permitted sender) Received: from [141.146.126.69] (HELO aserp1040.oracle.com) (141.146.126.69) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 01:44:05 +0000 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s5H1hi57013990 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 17 Jun 2014 01:43:45 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5H1hhVf001787 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Jun 2014 01:43:44 GMT Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5H1hhrt000177; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 01:43:43 GMT Received: from [10.159.245.136] (/10.159.245.136) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:43:43 -0700 Message-ID: <539F9D4E.7040000@oracle.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:43:42 -0700 From: Mike Rumph Organization: Oracle Corporation User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: docs@httpd.apache.org CC: dev@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Change of web site layout References: <539E0858.6050305@cord.dk> <201406160144.48452@news.perlig.de> <539E46CE.60707@cord.dk> <201406161000.46044@news.perlig.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050303040704040701010703" X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --------------050303040704040701010703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Greg, I agree with your push towards a peaceful and constructive discussion on this. Hello Daniel, I applaud your efforts at introducing a new design to the Apache Http Server website. As this is very different (though not radically so) from what was before, it is very easy to criticize. A change this big should be allowed time to breathe. Is there a way that some of these webpage designs (yours, Tim's, etc.) can be added to a side page of the website for review. So that the broader Apache HTTP Server community can have some input? Hello Andre, I also think all of your criticisms are important for the process. Each of them should be considered. Thanks to all, Mike Rumph On 6/16/2014 1:38 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:00 AM, Andr� Malo > wrote: > > * Daniel Gruno wrote: > > ... > > I'm finding the back/forth here to be a bit more combative than maybe > needed. Daniel: you asked for feedback. Andre could maybe be more > constructive and appreciative of your work, but it *is* what you asked > for. > > Forward movement is good, and I greatly appreciate bringing in > Bootstrap as a tool for making the site better looking, and more > layout-responsive. Kudos. > > Cheers, > -g > --------------050303040704040701010703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Greg,

I agree with your push towards a peaceful and constructive discussion on this.


Hello Daniel,

I applaud your efforts at introducing a new design to the Apache Http Server website.
As this is very different (though not radically so) from what was before,
it is very easy to criticize.
A change this big should be allowed time to breathe.

Is there a way that some of these webpage designs (yours, Tim's, etc.) can be added to a side page of the website for review.
So that the broader Apache HTTP Server community can have some input?


Hello Andre,

I also think all of your criticisms are important for the process.
Each of them should be considered.


Thanks to all,

Mike Rumph


On 6/16/2014 1:38 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:00 AM, André Malo <nd@perlig.de> wrote:
* Daniel Gruno wrote:
... 

I'm finding the back/forth here to be a bit more combative than maybe needed. Daniel: you asked for feedback. Andre could maybe be more constructive and appreciative of your work, but it *is* what you asked for.

Forward movement is good, and I greatly appreciate bringing in Bootstrap as a tool for making the site better looking, and more layout-responsive. Kudos.

Cheers,
-g


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