From docs-return-10860-apmail-httpd-docs-archive=httpd.apache.org@httpd.apache.org Mon Jul 16 17:22:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3301D9289 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79125 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jul 2012 17:22:40 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 79066 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jul 2012 17:22:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact docs-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: docs@httpd.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list docs@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 79057 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jul 2012 17:22:39 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:22:39 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.213.173] (HELO mail-yx0-f173.google.com) (209.85.213.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:22:31 +0000 Received: by yenl1 with SMTP id l1so6563052yen.18 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:22:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=U7hAMxZZeVOCvoVGTbwI5NkQ5DJF8ysvREhO+YQNXzU=; b=G2+kCKnI58UQNQiQt6H/8lQUObvjTM5WwvFjzCM0x1MfWBwX9HD0gqZCWBk7Qh/5J/ wbk9qEyyLA27h7NiV/p8Z/WDyX/FclCLWF5FSyhFxJY4qvaWXv0vjXVPuf4pHd2KVFUE KVvAGANu5JCUpt4Qlr1VTMkUrJxco/1H7L5c/0Wa02yjqUnnQduMirD96Ov2x0Iy4o7M z2qSEUkhxkIbdjV43U2JJY2h+9m81Hzt/xoJoUQZ1e9/acpeW7/YqwRR3YRiM7tYYmgE FzzfTANo3srFRIJgWH8djXhROE9Gv0XpQh1NRDa04WBDVJzctVe4ijjuZBCFSmwMmEOg +aVg== Received: by 10.50.94.133 with SMTP id dc5mr5843609igb.16.1342459330118; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.191] (74-131-224-250.dhcp.insightbb.com. [74.131.224.250]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s4sm9269847igb.1.2012.07.16.10.22.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:22:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Bowen Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_97A10513-DD97-4CA3-BF28-A6864687E370" Subject: Re: End of life for 2.0 documentation? Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:22:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: <50001EDB.8020205@cord.dk> To: docs@httpd.apache.org References: <50001EDB.8020205@cord.dk> Message-Id: <17A3760B-EB81-4679-A3C3-64ECBC9E2076@rcbowen.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk3Ta0Lr2U9w+X2TExV1+nvzJNgJ8KkGHYQNclVjQRfEehuOyVrp3fhorYPrOK3EjoKmvnX --Apple-Mail=_97A10513-DD97-4CA3-BF28-A6864687E370 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Yes, it's grumpy old me again, singing the same song from before. > It appears that Google et al are still showing our 2.0 documentation = as > a preferred page when searching for various modules and keywords, and = I > still don't like this. I'd like to propose that we add some meta data = to > our 2.0 pages, more specifically: >=20 > > or > >=20 Coming late to the party, a comment or two: 1) For the 1.3 docs, obviously, I had to add those rel canonical links = by hand to each HTML file. Ew. As such, there are still many of those = docs that don't have it, and so are still top of the Google results. = Patches welcome. 2) The biggest difficulty with adding these rel tags automatically is = when docs change name, or disappear entirely, between versions. In those = cases, we need to do something special. It's not obvious to me how to do = this automatically without generating broken links in those cases. That = would obviously be bad. Other than that, I'm very much in favor of this change, and think it's a = great service both to the end-users and to the documentation team. --=20 Rich Bowen rbowen@rcbowen.com :: @rbowen rbowen@apache.org --Apple-Mail=_97A10513-DD97-4CA3-BF28-A6864687E370 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Yes, it's grumpy old me again, singing the same song = from before.
It appears that Google et al are still showing our 2.0 = documentation as
a preferred page when searching for various modules = and keywords, and I
still don't like this. I'd like to propose that = we add some meta data to
our 2.0 pages, more = specifically:

<meta name=3D"robots" = content=3D"noindex">
or
<link rel=3D"canonical" = href=3D"http://httpd.apache.org/doc= s/current/"/>


Coming = late to the party, a comment or two:

1) For the = 1.3 docs, obviously, I had to add those rel canonical links by hand to = each HTML file. Ew. As such, there are still many of those docs that = don't have it, and so are still top of the Google results. Patches = welcome.

2) The biggest difficulty with adding = these rel tags automatically is when docs change name, or disappear = entirely, between versions. In those cases, we need to do something = special. It's not obvious to me how to do this automatically without = generating broken links in those cases. That would obviously be = bad.

Other than that, I'm very much in favor of = this change, and think it's a great service both to the end-users and to = the documentation team.


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