From docs-return-8852-apmail-httpd-docs-archive=httpd.apache.org@httpd.apache.org Sat Jun 05 12:16:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 51485 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2010 12:16:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 5 Jun 2010 12:16:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 46714 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2010 12:16:16 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 46626 invoked by uid 500); 5 Jun 2010 12:16:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact docs-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: docs@httpd.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list docs@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 46618 invoked by uid 99); 5 Jun 2010 12:16:14 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:16:14 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=10.0 tests=AWL,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jorge.schrauwen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.45] (HELO mail-bw0-f45.google.com) (209.85.214.45) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:16:09 +0000 Received: by bwz4 with SMTP id 4so501702bwz.18 for ; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:15:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TbN4MTzFD7i1bPefuQui4dMJFl+z2pFzzeF8YrZD8dA=; b=GH2lNwMcvfeRMdNmp3WdOcoW9imHJp+KkgcmPgO65gbfMW9d4wHm7xwNYAgg0Dc/m4 iFgiPMVxKp0/KOk8cnXRJLp2dgu7zvrYnpaFR7hGK+L4W+keN8WldWNL8A4w770PP/CU yAJmOTyU6K8ZEB1huzJkfYU1sWG9sVFqJTSto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=J/e5wEkGf6QJv4nRWJpYhpJqQOWijGJ0VpyNoYV91QvR5A+ZrwXhhS2tePyZjYHpVc fzN8FMYqtvn9izO8XA19cXBJFXL0P6vskl0/6VtmZcJCkh0DFCORDFMGyOQMSm6IMmtJ rjqMMxvSq1Ss4iF7U8WxG5VnrUS1My489cimg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.81.89 with SMTP id w25mr4902432bkk.39.1275740147265; Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.68.136 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jun 2010 05:15:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1320000073.1102.1275693362848.JavaMail.root@iris> References: <386170173.1100.1275693137800.JavaMail.root@iris> <1320000073.1102.1275693362848.JavaMail.root@iris> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:15:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: IRC From: Jorge Schrauwen To: docs@httpd.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64c834db3cc0488476651 --0016e6d64c834db3cc0488476651 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/6/5 Igor Gali=C4=87 > > Hey folks, > > I just realized that I created this one in good faith: > > http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/IRC > > said my two words on IRC about it, and left it there - > mostly because my (lack of) free time didn't allow me to fill in > the blanks. > > I'd like to get some points across on my intentions. > > First off: I'm not sending this to users@ because a great mass > of users@ doesn't participate on IRC. > > Second: A number people (users) on IRC have given me to understand > that our appearance is not consistent. > I have to agree with our users on this, depending on who's available and th= e question being asked the responses can vary widely from friend pointers to documentation to complete ready made solutions. e.g. rewrite questions, They'll get answers raging from read this and learn regex to nudges in the correct directions (examples in docs, wiki) to a correct and working rewriterule. I also think this is part of what to expect on IRC, sometimes the people around have more knowledge on the subject or more free time. Then again maybe not answering at all in some cases would be better (as of the ##windows link) Most of those of us who have @op in #httpd, do so because of their > hard-skill and because of their long-time presence -- not exactly > because of their soft-skills (I'm no exception ;) > I would like to put down some, very basic rules, for all of us > to play by -- nicely. I've taken in that wiki-page ##windows > in special, and, of course, FreeNode in general as an example. > But I would like /us/ to put /our/ rules together by which we want > to play (and be played ;). > > I really like this idea, I've scan-read through the pages linked on the wiki. I agree with quite a few things mentions not everything. I think the hardest part is getting a few good rules that will make things better and keep it simple. > That's all folks o/~ > -- > Igor Gali=C4=87 > > Tel: +43 (0) 699 122 96 338 > Fax: +43(0) 1 91 333 41 > Mail: i.galic@brainsware.org > URL: http://brainsware.org/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: docs-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: docs-help@httpd.apache.org > > I also like the idea to merge it with /general/IRC like Sling suggested but we can keep /httpd/IRC for now as a scratch pad. I'll see if I can pick a few and get a small list started on the page later today. Jorge --0016e6d64c834db3cc0488476651 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2010/6/5 Igor Gali=C4=87 &= lt;i.galic@brainsware.org>=

Hey folks,

I just realized that I created this one in good faith:

http://wiki.= apache.org/httpd/IRC

said my two words on IRC about it, and left it there -
mostly because my (lack of) free time didn't allow me to fill in
the blanks.

I'd like to get some points across on my intentions.

First off: I'm not sending this to users@ because a great mass
of users@ doesn't participate on IRC.

Second: A number people (users) on IRC have given me to understand
that our appearance is not consistent.

I have to a= gree with our users on this, depending on who's available and the quest= ion being asked the responses can vary widely from friend pointers to docum= entation to complete ready made solutions.
e.g. rewrite questions,
They'll get answers raging from read this an= d learn regex to nudges in the correct directions (examples in docs, wiki) = to a correct and working rewriterule.

I also think this is part of = what to expect on IRC, sometimes the people around have more knowledge on t= he subject or more free time. Then again maybe not answering at all in some= cases would be better (as of the ##windows link)

Most of those of us who have @op in #httpd, do so because of their
hard-skill and because of their long-time presence -- not exactly
because of their soft-skills (I'm no exception ;)=C2=A0
=C2=A0
I would like to put down some, very basic rules, for all of us
to play by -- nicely. I've taken in that wiki-page ##windows
in special, and, of course, FreeNode in general as an example.
But I would like /us/ to put /our/ rules together by which we want
to play (and be played ;).


I really like this idea, I've scan-read throu= gh the pages linked on the wiki. I agree with quite a few things mentions n= ot everything. I think the hardest part is getting a few good rules that wi= ll make things better and keep it simple.
=C2=A0
That's all folks o/~
--
Igor Gali=C4=87

Tel: +43 (0) 699 122 96 338
Fax: +43(0) 1 91 333 41
Mail: i.galic@brainsware.org<= br> URL: http://brainsware= .org/

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I also like the idea to merge it with /general/IRC l= ike Sling suggested but we can keep /httpd/IRC for now as a scratch pad.I'll see if I can pick a few and get a small list started on the page = later today.

Jorge
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