Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 21832 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2010 21:44:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 17 Mar 2010 21:44:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 39644 invoked by uid 500); 17 Mar 2010 21:44:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 39488 invoked by uid 500); 17 Mar 2010 21:44:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact docs-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: docs@httpd.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list docs@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 39480 invoked by uid 99); 17 Mar 2010 21:44:31 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:44:31 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of A.Ford@ford-mason.co.uk designates 80.77.248.82 as permitted sender) Received: from [80.77.248.82] (HELO portal.ford-mason.co.uk) (80.77.248.82) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:44:26 +0000 Received: from daedalus.ford-mason.co.uk ([172.27.0.3]) by portal.ford-mason.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ns120-0008VJ-Qn for docs@httpd.apache.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:44:04 +0000 Message-ID: <4BA14D1F.2090405@ford-mason.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:43:59 +0000 From: Andrew Ford User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: docs@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Suexec doc (Was Re: Fixing confusion of Apache vs httpd) References: <4B92C085.2020601@rowe-clan.net> <1404e5911003120329g7baa5cc5p8b0f91007f32c776@mail.gmail.com> <931022DF-463C-4A49-8A07-9CD1F585B609@rcbowen.com> <987950801003130841t2465af48g397458a2e05b5f36@mail.gmail.com> <4B9C48A4.8020809@rowe-clan.net> <1404e5911003160555i4e43331bxe713b94dee08d547@mail.gmail.com> <8B9B4190-24CE-425E-B48F-1BDBD86030FB@rcbowen.com> <987950801003160709m56462931s96895d7ef1c1ef3@mail.gmail.com> <41CDF7E6-AD2A-4BDD-AE88-A8724B5D7E1D@lorraine.iufm.fr> <4BA13147.402@rowe-clan.net> <034A63C6-D487-4C1D-AE3D-C13AD6807F9A@rcbowen.com> <4BA138B8.4070400@rowe-clan.net> In-Reply-To: <4BA138B8.4070400@rowe-clan.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 3/17/2010 3:02 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > >> I didn't think that the patch would incur the wrath of Roy. >> > > I did - which is why my initial response was, uhm, direct. I'm sorry > if it also came off as opinionated or confrontational, I was just trying > to avert the previously-fought battle from reappearing. > > I think it's worth noting that our English language expert can easily > derive "HTTPD" or "HTTPd" forms, so I don't know that Roy's blanket > criticism of the users/legal/whatever communities is really warranted. > It just points out that you need to think of any proposed name in terms > of its plural, possessive and other non-normative forms, and railing > against flaws of the English language is about a 1000 year old sport :) > > Nothing Roy pointed out affects the "next version of httpd" (other than > speaking for potential bastardizations of "The HTTP Protocol", of which > he is still an active editor). > > It's not too early to start talking (in trunk/STATUS?) of names for the > next httpd, e.g. 3.0. If we want to call it "Dee" or whatever, let the > naming begin :) > > > I know I am coming in to this discussion very late on, but I find the name HTTPD (whatever capitalization) ugly and not very user friendly. It is cumbersome to say the individual letters in English (by contrast "IIS" rolls off the tongue much more easily). It seems that in print everyone refers to the web server as just Apache, or maybe Apache [web] server. I doubt that most people outside the project, without a Unix background, would necessarily understand what HTTPD meant (and debian and Ubuntu name their package "apache2" anyway). In my opinion a better, clearer name would just be Apache Web Server. Andrew -- Andrew Ford South Wing Compton House, Compton Green, Redmarley, Gloucestershire, GL19 3JB, UK Tel: +44 1531 829900 Mobile: +44 7785 258278 Email: A.Ford@ford-mason.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: docs-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: docs-help@httpd.apache.org