From docs-return-8728-apmail-httpd-docs-archive=httpd.apache.org@httpd.apache.org Fri Mar 12 13:36:37 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 80221 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2010 13:36:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 12 Mar 2010 13:36:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 64047 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2010 13:36:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 63935 invoked by uid 500); 12 Mar 2010 13:36:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact docs-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: docs@httpd.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list docs@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 63927 invoked by uid 99); 12 Mar 2010 13:36:00 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:36:00 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [187.16.23.92] (HELO mta60.f1.k8.com.br) (187.16.23.92) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:35:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtpk.f1.k8.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFA142B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:35:31 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at k8.com.br Received: from smtpk.f1.k8.com.br ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta60.f1.k8.com.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QdqGDzqRXX6Y for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:35:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.254.3] (unknown [189.105.219.240]) by smtpk.f1.k8.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 90559437 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:35:30 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4B9A432D.6050904@adielcristo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:35:41 -0300 From: Adiel Cristo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; pt-BR; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091204 Thunderbird/3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: docs@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: Suexec doc (Was Re: Fixing confusion of Apache vs httpd) References: <4B92C085.2020601@rowe-clan.net> <1404e5911003120329g7baa5cc5p8b0f91007f32c776@mail.gmail.com> <931022DF-463C-4A49-8A07-9CD1F585B609@rcbowen.com> <9EA99531-BA03-4511-AA5D-A3CD8F5C0A22@rcbowen.com> In-Reply-To: <9EA99531-BA03-4511-AA5D-A3CD8F5C0A22@rcbowen.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000901060603070509000409" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --------------000901060603070509000409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am a student of Computer Science UFBA - Brazil, and share the documentation list for a long time because I am developing a project that involves the Apache HTTP Server Documentation. I don't know if the discussion of these changes in nomenclature of the server is open to everyone or just to you who work directly with the documentation, but I make a suggestion. It can be defined at the beginning of documentation, in a relevant local, that "Apache HTTP Server" refers to the server as a whole, including all its processes (httpd, apachectl, etc.) and "httpd" refers to the process explicitly, or could be used only "httpd" for two, with a different markup to distinguish when referring to the server and when it refers to the process. I think that use only the term "Apache 2" would lead to the belief that "Apache 1" or simply "Apache" refers to the first version of the server. Anyway, this is just a suggestion, so excuse any inconvenience. Regards, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Adiel Cristo* /"The measure of my steps is the will of my Father..."/ Web Developer / Web Designer / Information Architect adiel@adielcristo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Em 12/3/2010 09:35, Rich Bowen escreveu: > > On Mar 12, 2010, at 7:27 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > >> >> On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:29 AM, Eric Covener wrote: >> >>>>> We are unlikely to ever completely fix this in the public >>>>> perception, but >>>>> the program is "httpd", the "Apache HTTP Server". If you could >>>>> all help >>>>> to identify "Apache" abuse throughout the documentation and web >>>>> pages, and >>>>> transform those to "httpd" for shorthand, that would be a huge help. >>> >>> I am still confused over when "Apache HTTP Server" and when "httpd". >>> Is the former just a baby step to the latter? >>> >>> I wanted to do a mass sed of s/Apache 2/Apache HTTP Server 2/g, but if >>> "Apache HTTP Server" is only the marginally less confusing term I >>> didn't want the unnecessary churn. >>> >>> ("Apache 2" just happens to get a lot of hits and is a pretty safe >>> expression) >> >> What I ahve been trying to do is to use 'Apache HTTP Server (httpd)' >> at the beginning of a document, and 'httpd' thereafter. Perhaps >> Noirin can tell us what we should be doing here. > > Also, should we be using particular markup, such as > httpd, to refer to the server? > > --Rich > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: docs-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: docs-help@httpd.apache.org > > --------------000901060603070509000409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

I am a student of Computer Science UFBA - Brazil, and share the documentation list for a long time because I am developing a project that involves the Apache HTTP Server Documentation.

I don't know if the discussion of these changes in nomenclature of the server is open to everyone or just to you who work directly with the documentation, but I make a suggestion.

It can be defined at the beginning of documentation, in a relevant local, that "Apache HTTP Server" refers to the server as a whole, including all its processes (httpd, apachectl, etc.) and "httpd" refers to the process explicitly, or could be used only "httpd" for two, with a different markup to distinguish when referring to the server and when it refers to the process.

I think that use only the term "Apache 2" would lead to the belief that "Apache 1" or simply "Apache" refers to the first version of the server.

Anyway, this is just a suggestion, so excuse any inconvenience.

Regards,

Adiel Cristo
"The measure of my steps is the will of my Father..."
Web Developer / Web Designer / Information Architect
adiel@adielcristo.com

Em 12/3/2010 09:35, Rich Bowen escreveu:

On Mar 12, 2010, at 7:27 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:


On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:29 AM, Eric Covener wrote:

We are unlikely to ever completely fix this in the public perception, but
the program is "httpd", the "Apache HTTP Server".  If you could all help
to identify "Apache" abuse throughout the documentation and web pages, and
transform those to "httpd" for shorthand, that would be a huge help.

I am still confused over when "Apache HTTP Server" and when "httpd".
Is the former just a baby step to the latter?

I wanted to do a mass sed of s/Apache 2/Apache HTTP Server 2/g, but if
"Apache HTTP Server" is only the marginally less confusing term I
didn't want the unnecessary churn.

("Apache 2" just happens to get a lot of hits and is a pretty safe expression)

What I ahve been trying to do is to use 'Apache HTTP Server (httpd)' at the beginning of a document, and 'httpd' thereafter. Perhaps Noirin can tell us what we should be doing here.

Also, should we be using particular markup, such as <code>httpd</code>, to refer to the server?

--Rich

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