Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 6057 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2007 00:14:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Aug 2007 00:14:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 59910 invoked by uid 500); 17 Aug 2007 00:14:55 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-httpd-docs-archive@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 59708 invoked by uid 500); 17 Aug 2007 00:14:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact docs-help@httpd.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: docs@httpd.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list docs@httpd.apache.org Received: (qmail 59697 invoked by uid 99); 17 Aug 2007 00:14:54 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:14:54 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jslive@gmail.com designates 209.85.198.188 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.198.188] (HELO rv-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.198.188) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:14:51 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so282897rvb for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:14:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=eGyCBzOoA63g8h7jEsGim29OPRqYL4r9WoQrfDB8yrJKpRT0t2WsDweqPVwAzGgk4vBfXWbPM5VKfgwG0XNK8gH1blFDTa5KXz9zdI5DiQAWe5Gp17U1jcEgOr2BfmsybP5AqghnD7jj3E41MZMmI5zI6HPaGOPK5XDweVe7Qlo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=BxIMyLafuqKn+0SwFbDbIbpuXhbk6m7lspplo7brSB/oeURzcb0TWvDRpsH8QWlYgaey/zx7l6PUkh6TfVKNYyTsYu7XNbP2plZ8v7vYYxoVMRlf6igiRYtcKbhl9Kkw9Hr26GTNT9P/kO6jHOJYGUIgt+h15CXFRr1zdafxObs= Received: by 10.115.17.1 with SMTP id u1mr394118wai.1187309670667; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.53.5 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:14:30 -0400 From: "Joshua Slive" Sender: jslive@gmail.com To: docs@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: HTTPD Wiki Pages In-Reply-To: <46C4ADE1.6000205@pc-tony.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46C4ADE1.6000205@pc-tony.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 95b0613c49f45fc8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 8/16/07, Tony Stevenson wrote: > Good day, > > Earlier today whilst reading through some of the infra@ postings I > happened across a mail which was referring to another wiki platform that > the ASF use. CWIKI. I have no particular attachment to moinmoin (or wikis in general), but a few notes: 1. confluence is not open source, which is a big strike against it for us (not just on philosophical grounds, but also on practical grounds for a tech-oriented non-profit wanting to maintain control of its "knowledge resources"). 2. confluence is way more resource hungry and less stable than moinmoin. 3. Many projects use confluence as a pure content management system to generate their project docs. We have another system to generate our project docs and use moinmoin as a real wiki to encourage public contributions. The extra features of confluence are less attractive in this situation. If you are proposing that we use confluence to generate our official docs, that is a whole other ball of wax and would, I'm sure, involve massive changes in how we do things. 4. While confluence can export html, moinmoin is fronted by mod_cache, making it very light-weight for read-only use. 5. moinmoin is also somewhat customizable. See the spamassassin wiki, for example. I believe it is very premature to call for a vote. I'd first like to see some very concrete reason why confluence would be substantially better. Joshua. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: docs-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: docs-help@httpd.apache.org