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From Tony Stevenson <>
Subject Re: [Issue] External links @ the wiki, aka pagechange wars
Date Thu, 24 May 2007 15:44:27 GMT

Joshua Slive wrote:
> On 5/24/07, Rich Bowen <> wrote:
>> On May 24, 2007, at 04:23, Tony Stevenson wrote:
>> >>
>> > AskApache has had several email conversations with both myself, and
>> > Rich.  In which he was asked politely, but firmly to not use links
>> > to content on his site.
>> NOTE: NOT because external links are bad, but because the articles to
>> which he was linking were misleading, incorrect, and promoted sub-
>> optimal solutions to common problems. The implied endorsement (The
>> Apache docs link to this article, so it must be true) was
>> unfortunate, and undesirable.
> Although I respect Bill's desire to have this solved apache-wide, I
> actually think that this case would have been better addressed in the
> closer confines of docs@httpd. Let's just address this particular case
> and not worry about the general issue for now.
> The Apache wiki is not some democratic exercise like wikipedia where
> we need to treat everyone equally. We are a meritocracy, not a
> democracy, even on the wiki. Certain people (like Rich) have earned
> the right to make final decisions about what should be on the wiki.
> AskApache has not earned that right.
> The content that he is adding is inappropriate (and violates my
> suggested policy) for many reasons. I suggest that someone email him
> and tell him that he is henceforth banned from:
> 1) Making any links to his personal site; and
> 2) Reverting any change made by someone else (even if that change is a
> reversion of his change).
> If he can't live with those rules, he can be banned for good.

Would it be possible to re-enable write access for known 'good guys' so 
we can continue the process maintaining the wiki?

> If you would like me to send this email (as someone who has not
> interacted with him before) I'd be fine with that (although I don't
> know his address).
Josh, I am happy to send this mail too, as I already have a history with 
him.  I am not sure he will react overly well with someone else 'wading 
in' to this.

> Joshua.
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