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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:54:52 -0800
From: Justin Erenkrantz <justin@erenkrantz.com>
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Subject: Re: Web site translation
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--On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:25 AM +0100 Andr=E9 Malo <nd@perlig.de> =
wrote:

> Most developers are bad in writing documentation with either system. The
> only thing the current system brought, were inconsistencies. Look at the
> site. It's ugly, it's inconsistent, there are a lot of different styles on
> every corner. Actually, I don't think, that it's going to be worse if we do
> anything.

If converting it to XSLT will convince more people to update the content, than =

great.  If it'll prohibit contributions, than I don't know if it's worth it.

By and large, I think the core developers are the ones who place most of the=20
content on the website - not the documentation group.  Perhaps that could=20
change...but I think the httpd docs group as a whole have historically paid=20
little attention to our web content.

Honestly, I'd strongly prefer that any efforts on the website focus on content =

not style first.  Converting it to XSLT bores me as it doesn't solve any real=20
problems we have.  I believe our more pressing problem is that we have lots=20
and lots of outdated information on there that we need to clean up and fix.=20
So, IMHO, any effort towards refreshing the look should also focus on updating =

content.  And, not updating the English version *first* makes the translators' =

job more difficult as they'd be translating useless content that'd be thrown=20
out later as people clean up the English versions.

> Said that; of course we'll try to keep the process as close as possible to
> the current one, it's of our all interest ;-). But if we can make things
> better, we *need* to change stuff. Which is a good thing [TM], simply
> because the current site is *really* ancient.

I take it you either have blocked out what was on there previous to the Anakia =

version or forgotten.  =3D)  *I* think it's rather 'new.'  But, I guess I'm=20
starting to be an old greybeard around here.  Oh no!  (/me recoils from the=20
folks who still consider me a clueless newbie.)  -- justin

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